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Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by Thirdegree »

josho wrote: post #84
codeshaman wrote: post #65

These young people are addicted to their phones and snapchat. Later on in life, when they 'grow out' of snapchat, they will replace the addiction with something else - some other app, but also food, drugs or sex. Whatever thing they will find interesting, they will pursue it with the same pattern that they learn with these apps / games. This future generation will have to find a way to live with all this addictive te…

Reminds me of Brave New World, where the general population lives in a shallow lifestyle void of any meaning. Seem like a pattern, predicting that future, is emerging. E.g. My parent's teenage hobby was musical instruments. Mine was playing video games. Kids today it seems is responding to selfies. pg also has a good essay on the Acceleration of Addictiveness* that seems relevant. * http://paulgraham.com/addiction.ht…

"Kids today it seems is responding to selfies"

Which is more social than either of the other hobbies you mentioned. How is it shallow and void of any meaning?

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by Thirdegree »

rtl49 wrote: post #178
tomlock wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think no generation has really seen their criticism of the new generation as "kids these days" prejudice. If they did think that, they wouldn't say the words with such conviction. But, that is kinda what it looks like, right?

Perhaps this line of thinking is why many adults of today let the kids run rampage while matters of immediate importance to them go unattended. It is often difficult for a thinking person to admit to a sense of certainty, but at the risk of seeming to exclude myself from that group, I have to say that I believe this is a sheer waste of time, and almost certainly an intellectually destructive one. It is not necessaril…

"And unlike some forms of leisure, this one bears no fruit."

Increased connection with peers, for one. It's incredibly easy to network now. I'm young, and wasn't around for what you're looking back on as the good old days, but I disagree that there is no value to being able to send a one off "look what I'm doing" to a friend.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by Thirdegree »

proc0 wrote: post #187

I'm laughing at all the people that "feel old". This kid is 13! Literally a child. If you're in your late 20's or 30's, you're not old, you're just not a child anymore. Snapchat is nothing that new. It's just communicating with your friends in a different way that before was not possible. It's like texting on steroids. I don't see the big deal, and I definitely don't like the fact that you can't save them. What's the…

"What's the point of data if you can't save it? What if you capture a truly awesome moment?"

You can download your own snaps from the app within 24 hours if you posted it to your story (which you probably did).

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by Thirdegree »

steveoc64 wrote: post #257
TacticalTable wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if Snapchat is a direct reaction to the permanency of social media. Once schools/parents started teaching kids to be careful online, they moved to a service where it isn't as much of an issue.

How does anyone know for sure that all of that traffic (or at least the meta data related to the traffic) is not prepped for data mining on a per-user basis ? There would be obvious commercial advantage in doing this, just for starters. Data mining services like facebook gives you a solid picture of the interests and connections that the target person broadcasts publicaly. This is useful information, and it is exploi…

"How does anyone know for sure that all of that traffic (or at least the meta data related to the traffic) is not prepped for data mining on a per-user basis ?"

You can't, but that's not really the point. The point is that it's not permanent in a form that other users can access. Sure, maybe Snapchat stores every picture I ever sent. That sucks and should stop. But at least Grandma can't go back and look at some 2 year old picture I took with some buddies.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by vacri »

Thirdegree wrote: post #271
josho wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of Brave New World, where the general population lives in a shallow lifestyle void of any meaning. Seem like a pattern, predicting that future, is emerging. E.g. My parent's teenage hobby was musical instruments. Mine was playing video games. Kids today it seems is responding to selfies. pg also has a good essay on the Acceleration of Addictiveness* that seems relevant. * http://paulgraham.com/addiction.ht…

"Kids today it seems is responding to selfies" Which is more social than either of the other hobbies you mentioned. How is it shallow and void of any meaning?

> Which is more social than either of the other hobbies you mentioned.

The girl in TFA just dumps the snapchats she's sent, flicking through them just to be rid of them. She's not being social, she's just incrementing a counter to boast about. Well, unless you're calling the boasting the social part, I guess, but I wouldn't say that that was more social than learning a musical instrument.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by JabavuAdams »

visakanv wrote: post #270
JabavuAdams wrote: post #243

Youth is wasted on the young. I've loved video games since I was about 7. I've made a good living off of video games. In my thirties, I never once thought "Man, I wish I'd spent more time playing video games in my twenties." Now, as I turn 40, I wonder how different my life would have been if I'd spent more time doing other things, instead of playing video games. The process of aging is impossible to convey fully, bu…

> Now, as I turn 40, I wonder how different my life would have been if I'd spent more time doing other things, instead of playing video games. Do you mind sharing what these other things are, specifically? Thanks!

1. Playing fewer video games in university, and focusing more on studying so that I didn't fail my final year. I started university three years early, which has opened doors, but having a degree would have opened more. Also, paying more attention to electromagnetics and thermodynamics.

2. Continuing to train for Tennis. You really can get too old to do this at an elite level. I love training, and I love being in the zone: perceiving / acting / crushing the opposition. Sport is a natural fit for my attention, physicality, and aggression, whereas long-term projects are more of an uphill battle.

3. More travel, although I'm not really that interested in individual people, so perhaps it would have been wasted. To the extent that I'm interested in other people now, it's to figure out what they know that I don't know and how they acquired that knowledge or experience.

Don't get me wrong. My life is pretty sweet, but I do have regrets. It's more that I'm realizing the difference between turning 30 and turning 40. At 30 you can pretty much do everything you could do in your twenties. At 40, doors are closing, esp. regarding physical injuries and recuperation.

I just kind of always assumed that I'd have a PhD by 25, be a concert pianist, a professional tennis player, and a software millionaire. I've had brushes with each, but so far no completion. Boo fucking hoo, right? Unrealistic expectations.

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Post by qrendel »

jsmeaton wrote: post #236
sandworm101 wrote: post #233

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I'm biased by my perceptive (legal) but imho girls between 12 and 18 should not be allowed connected cameras. I've had too many conversations with horrified fathers and crying children after a disturbing image ends up somewhere it was never meant to be. There are just too many people, and I include cops in this, out there looking to get kids into serious trouble. I know that kids live a life in pictures, but that pub…

Not boys? Boys send nudes too, and often request them. Isn't that soliciting child porn? We need to be feeding kids (boys and girls) way more information and hoping they don't mess up too badly.

Maybe we could instead go after the people who want to make careers out of destroying teenage lives with trumped-up child pornography charges? They seem like the real enemy in this stuff.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by jsmeaton »

qrendel wrote: post #277
jsmeaton wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not boys? Boys send nudes too, and often request them. Isn't that soliciting child porn? We need to be feeding kids (boys and girls) way more information and hoping they don't mess up too badly.

Maybe we could instead go after the people who want to make careers out of destroying teenage lives with trumped-up child pornography charges? They seem like the real enemy in this stuff.

Oh, that shit is awful too don't get me wrong. I was just trying to make the point that both boys and girls can get in serious trouble (legally and personally/socially). I don't get or agree with the sentiment that teen girls, alone, should not have access to cameras. Attacking the wrong part of the problem.

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Post by qrendel »

notlisted wrote: post #159
mschuster91 wrote: post #40

What in holy blazes, 60 gigabytes in a month just for one fucking stupid app? 1) what carrier does that girl have? And at what cost? With German internet prices, we'd look at a 500€ per month alone for data, not to mention other data using apps, calls, SMSes... 2) what the fuck, I use Netflix at home quite regularly and rarely exceed 50 GByte (I'm on a 50/5 VDSL so it isn't a lack of speed) of traffic. How many billi…

I think one or both have no no clue about gigabytes. It has to be video. Lots of video.

Probably streaming and replaying youtube videos, or something similar. Not that hard to run through several gb in a few hours. Multiply by 30 (days/month) and you can see 60 gb a month being easily doable.

Torrenting games and 1080p movies is even worse - at 10-60 gb a pop, the time to hit a 300 gb cap is limited only by your download speed.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by josephpmay »

steveoc64 wrote: post #257
TacticalTable wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if Snapchat is a direct reaction to the permanency of social media. Once schools/parents started teaching kids to be careful online, they moved to a service where it isn't as much of an issue.

How does anyone know for sure that all of that traffic (or at least the meta data related to the traffic) is not prepped for data mining on a per-user basis ? There would be obvious commercial advantage in doing this, just for starters. Data mining services like facebook gives you a solid picture of the interests and connections that the target person broadcasts publicaly. This is useful information, and it is exploi…

I know that because I know Evan, and he is obsessive about privacy. Of course it could all just be an act, but Occam's razor.

Truthfully, I don't really care if my Snapchat data is being mined. I'm not looking for absolute privacy. I'm not sending sensitive or private information. The ephemeral nature of the medium keeps me from worrying if a picture is unflattering or could be construed as in bad taste out of context.

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