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My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#101

I consider myself an early-adopter. I always try to at least test out new technology, especially if it's what "the kids" are using. But with Snapchat I had a strong reaction of "this is dumb, screw this, I'm too old for this". Plus, no one I knew used it. I guess that makes me old now.

I'm not sure why so many of us don't "get" Snapchat. Really it just corrects one of the biggest "features" of social apps: that they're essentially public-facing, permanent popularity contests.

On Snapchat, every picture and chat message self-destructs by default, so there's less social pressure to post something truly extraordinary. There's no publicly visible tracking of likes, so you're not tempted to compare your popularity with others. There is no infinite history where you can come across something old that will make you embarrassed and upset (e.g. records of bad decisions, photos with an ex).

Sending snaps back and forth is great for staying in touch with friends without having to converse about a particular topic. For acquaintances who you don't know as well, an amusing snap is a great icebreaker. And for when you DO want to have a conversation, there's both an IM and a video chat.

The Discover feature where you see content from VIPs directly competes with a significant use-case of Twitter in the target demographic. But unlike Twitter, it's more visual, more immersive, and because of its temporal nature, more exclusive.

Moreover, teens hate creeps. You know every time someone views your snap. You know when someone screenshots your snap. You know when your chat is read. You know when someone views your story. Your audience is exactly who you choose. It's not the internet at large. It's not your mom, it's not the weird guy in your school who found your profile, and it's not people way outside your age-range who are thirst-liking your selfies and making you uncomfortable.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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post #30

Well, that was eye-opening. I honestly thought Snapchat was only used to sext off pics of naughty bits.

That's what I thought, too. I thought the core feature was 'self destructing messages/photos'. I also presumed that a dedicated power user could preserve said photos forever, so I immediately wrote the whole thing off.

There are 3rd party apps for that functionality.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#103
I think our distaste for this obvious misdirection of human attention goes beyond mere "kids these days" prejudice. SV startups,"social," "interconnectedness," this nonsense is creating an asinine, infantilized generation: easily manipulated, desperate for social acceptance, incapable of independent thought, and entirely beholden to the whims of mainstream society. This cutesy "adult finds himself going with the flow" motif just further normalizes this endless, pathetic pattern of adults emulating children. Barack Obama and Matt Lauer are taking selfies!? Enough.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#104
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can just get an unlimited tarif and be done with it. Um, if you're in the U.S. probably not. Most have some kind of limits even on 'unlimited' such as your connection goes to ISDN speed. Even my cable modem has a 350GB a month cap which I occasionally exceed.

> Um, if you're in the U.S. probably not. Most have some kind of limits even on 'unlimited' such as your connection goes to ISDN speed. Yeah... but in Germany the biggest cap available is 10GB for 25€ ( http://www.billiger-telefonieren.de/mobiles-internet-verglei... ) and these are data-only SIMs, truly unlimited does not exist for us. On the other hand, while shockingly low caps are generally accepted on mobile, peo…

Germany is literally the exception. Even in the US you can get high data caps on mobile. Also some of that data will go via wifi.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not the typical user. You can just get an unlimited tarif and be done with it.

> You can just get an unlimited tarif and be done with it. Um, if you're in the U.S. probably not. Most have some kind of limits even on 'unlimited' such as your connection goes to ISDN speed. Even my cable modem has a 350GB a month cap which I occasionally exceed.

In the US it's not an issue to have 60GB per month. Neither on mobile nor on cable.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#106
post #48

This is pretty stupid. Teens aren't the trendsetters, they're the early adopters. Teens follow their older siblings who are the true trend setters. There's no way a 13 year old determines whats popular, it is older 18-30 cool people who are the true trend setters. Rappers and pop icons for the most part, there are no 13 year old pop icons.

This was my thought the whole way through.. He's treating this teen like he needs to be more like her. It sounds like she's wasting her life while simultaneously wasting her friends' lives. There's no gain to this..

Reminds me of my AIM, MSN, and IRC days, except I actually remember some of those interactions.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#107
It's interesting to hear everyone saying 'ah, I'm too old for Snapchat'. At face value I feel that way too, but I think there's something more going on here.

Snapchat strikes me as a really unique modality. It's not really a message type that we can draw some kind of lineage back to PARC or Bell Labs or whatever. Slack follows a familiar pattern of 'oh yeah, that's just like IRC and they had those running on Altos a million years ago'. SMS, yeah that's just chat. And so on...

Was there a Snapchat equivalent back in the dark ages of networked computers? Not that I'm familiar with (although I'd love to see an example). I think that fact points to a meaningful difference between the computer that's in your hand or your pocket all the time and the 'workstation' that's on your desk. A computer that's always with you can deliver different kinds of messages and project different kinds of presence from other people you know. I hope Snapchat is just the beginning of this.

Snapchat doesn't have some kind of physical equivalency like a book or a note on the fridge. I don't think appreciating that is necessarily pegged to age, but more to openness. Snapchat is just legitimately unfamiliar and unusual. From afar, I think that's great.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know so many 20 somethings that use snapchat. Here I am still not getting it. "But you can send a picture in a text message..."

The whole appeal of Snapchat is that nothing is permanent, so you don't have to really think about what you're sending.

I wouldn't say nothing. There are apps even in the Play Store that allow for Snapchat image saving.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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post #33

I am the very proud father of a 14yo girl whom I have turned into an teenaged IT guru over the years. She learned to read at age 3 using the very well done "Cat In The Hat" desktop program, and since then I have turned her on to everything from Gmail at age 6 to Ableton at 12. I've decided that Snapchat is where it ends for me/us last year...she needs something to be hers and her friends alone, without "Dad" poking i…

man this is scary for me, I'm about to have a baby girl (she already has a Gmail account), I know I'm far from the "dad doesn't get 'it'" phase, but it is still scary. Do you have any tips to make this transition easy?

I have four kids...two in college now...the other two are on track to be in a few years...I get compliments on them all the time...

The number one piece of advice I can give you is to suspend any preconceptions you have, consciously or unconsciously, about the kind of person they will be...don't force them into some mold you have in mind for them...they will be separate and distinct beings from birth...treat them as such with as much love and guidance as you can muster...let them breathe...

Also: Expose them to as many things as possible, and let them choose the things that they want to follow up on...

Model good behavior, so they will see what good behavior looks like...point out good behavior to them as opportunities arise...

And hope luck is with you...

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

#110

These young people are addicted to their phones and snapchat. Later on in life, when they 'grow out' of snapchat, they will replace the addiction with something else - some other app, but also food, drugs or sex. Whatever thing they will find interesting, they will pursue it with the same pattern that they learn with these apps / games. This future generation will have to find a way to live with all this addictive te…

I'm sure adults said the same thing about video games. "What will these kids replace their video game addiction with when they outgrow it? Drugs?!"
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