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Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

Yeah, this seems like it might be useful for people who follow loads of accounts. I follow about 40, and I want to read literally everything all of them say. So long as it doesn't fuck up that use-case (e.g. by remaining optional), I'm fine with it.

That's what lists are for. I follow over 400 people but have them segmented into lists and its never unmanageable for me.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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post #27

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

Yeah, this seems like it might be useful for people who follow loads of accounts. I follow about 40, and I want to read literally everything all of them say. So long as it doesn't fuck up that use-case (e.g. by remaining optional), I'm fine with it.

Yeah, this seems like it might be useful for people who follow loads of accounts.

Yeah, I'd probably like this. I follow a LOT of people (right at the limit of how many you can follow) and I never expect to read every tweet. I just expect to check Twitter every now and then, and find a few useful / interesting nuggets of news. And occasionally I do a #hashtag search if I want to catch up on a specific topic.

So, for me, this kind of feature makes a lot of sense, as long as the algorithm does a good job of picking out the "good stuff".

It may not be for everybody, but I can see this being valuable for at least some percentage of Twitter users.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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As the resident Twitter fanboy, I'd like to point out something most people here (and elsewhere) who support the change seem to be missing out. We (Twitter users) are not as much worried about our stream being polluted, as much as OUR tweets not being seen. Currently, as long as people are online, there's a certain guarantee that they will see it. You don't need to reach out for popularity, because they'll see it any…

"Currently, as long as people are online, there's a certain guarantee that they will see it."

Currently, if your followers scroll through all their tweets, they are guaranteed to see everything you post. The same is true with the new system, as it's described in the blog post, although they might see some other tweets before yours, if the algorithm decides to prioritise them. Perhaps Twitter will later introduce a more Facebook-like system where users have "the option to only see popularly selected tweets", but that's not what they're currently proposing.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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People should check out GNU Social. Lots of people have migrated over to it (quitter.se being the biggest instance) with the whole #RIPTwitter controversy. It's entirely open source, has a twitter-like frontend you can install, and is federated across instances so even if one node starts with changes you don't like you can switch to another one and still talk to the entire network. quitter.se is moderated against hat…

The banner at the top say's "shitposter's and conservatives" might want to check out other services. Nice start. The entire TOS is a marvel of blackwhite-style thinking. Because "users who harass others" and "racism, sexism, ableism, homo- and transphobia" are "in practice limitations of free speech," we get the following, quite remarkable policy: "Moderators can exclude users from appearing in the public timeline it…

Did you just completely ignore the other half of my post?

GNU Social is free speech. It is federated across servers. No one of the instances can ban you from the network completely.

quitter.se /is not unmoderated and does not advertise as such/. It is one instance in the GNU Social network. It can ban you for posting hatespeech, and the owner (and the nonprofit company that it's under) has no obligation to host people's vitriol if he doesn't want to.

I'm not going to try and defend quitter.se's terms of service because I don't believe in them /nor are they relevant to the network on a whole/. Take it up with @hannes2peer@quitter.se, but there's really no reason to when you can host your own instance and just pretend his censorship doesn't happen.

It's more analogous to email than twitter: you can post to other email servers. People from other email servers can post to you. But your email server is free to kick you off or blacklist all emails from another one if it wants to, while you can move to any other server if your host is being abusive.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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It's diluting (and once the opt-in option goes away, removing) the important and unique aspect of Twitter. There's no way that removing what makes Twitter unique will make it a better or more successful product outside of the short term.

"The Verge spoke to two users who have been testing the new timeline for a few months. Neither particularly liked it. "I started to get used to it but I still think that it is a terrible idea," Twitter user Robin Bonny told me. "It tears conversations apart, and it's really confusing when some people have been live-tweeting an event and those things get scattered all across my timeline. It makes it extremely hard to follow events, and destroys one of the core values of Twitter, in my opinion." Another user, Coady DiBiase, was only slightly more positive. "It's definitely nice in terms of catching up on things I might've missed, but it's a departure from the core idea of Twitter, so overall it complicates things.""

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/6/10927874/twitter-algorithmi...

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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Here is something I want: Marc Andreessen wrote something about colonialism and India last night, and today he apologized for it. I didn't see the original tweet so how about using all the Twitter data scientists to help me figure out context? Assuming that he didn't delete it already.

I guess what I want is when someone subtweets, to have a link to the tweet it's subtweeting about. Twitter's website is a functional mess and having to scroll timelines for context is a huge time sink.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#68

I think twitter would be better off embracing lists. I follow relatively few people because of the firehose effect. My attitude towards the people I follow is that I like seeing their tweets, but I don't really care if I miss them. News would be a good example of this. It's great to get news or sports tweets in the moment, but they're probably not tweets I'm going to go back through later to find out what happened. O…

I second lists. I can view lists easily with TweetDeck, but organizing lists is a chore. How about themed lists & channels based on category? Make a channel called Fashion or a channel called Movies and it would more or less operate like a subreddit with moderators. I think it would be more engaging.

There's too much self managing and noise right now with Twitter. I pretty much have to have a separate account in order to efficiently dive into the different networks.

Let me give two use cases.

Say there's a basketball player and he tweets another basketball player and as a user it's fun to retweet/share/follow these conversations.

Then let's say I'm also into indie games and this one indie developer tweets a sneak peek to a new release, and some game blogger talks about it. As a user, again, it's fun to retweet/share/follow this.

I can't easily do this. Content is slapped together in a shitty form of lists and I continue to miss important things and I get jealous of other people's serendipitous luck in enjoying these conversations I would love to be a part of.

If Twitter can figure this out, they would do well.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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As the resident Twitter fanboy, I'd like to point out something most people here (and elsewhere) who support the change seem to be missing out. We (Twitter users) are not as much worried about our stream being polluted, as much as OUR tweets not being seen. Currently, as long as people are online, there's a certain guarantee that they will see it. You don't need to reach out for popularity, because they'll see it any…

> If this is made the default

It will be — the announcement says so. “Then we'll be turning on the feature for you in coming weeks — look out for a notification in your timeline.” (Emphasis mine. Delightful euphemism.)

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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post #65
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The banner at the top say's "shitposter's and conservatives" might want to check out other services. Nice start. The entire TOS is a marvel of blackwhite-style thinking. Because "users who harass others" and "racism, sexism, ableism, homo- and transphobia" are "in practice limitations of free speech," we get the following, quite remarkable policy: "Moderators can exclude users from appearing in the public timeline it…

Did you just completely ignore the other half of my post? GNU Social is free speech. It is federated across servers. No one of the instances can ban you from the network completely. quitter.se /is not unmoderated and does not advertise as such/. It is one instance in the GNU Social network. It can ban you for posting hatespeech, and the owner (and the nonprofit company that it's under) has no obligation to host peopl…

Sorry, I should have been more clear -- I was just commenting on quitter.se specifically, not GNU Social as a whole.
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