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LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
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Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#12Here's a question to HN: if we were to design an alternative to linkedin (for IT/technical folks), what would be the features you'd want? I'll start: 1) The ability to go no-opportunities. When you're not looking for work, you turn this on, and you will not turn up on any search result. 2) Simple export API, with a guarantee of you having complete say over your data. You may export as a json anytime, and import into…
>if we were to design an alternative to linkedin (for IT/technical folks), what would be the features you'd want?
The ability to confidently wipe all data you've ever fracked from me as part of deleting the account if/when I chose to leave your service.
Please plan the delete operations as a core part of your architecture, rather than an addon you can't properly support because you didn't think about deleting data when you designed the system.
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#13It makes it feel as though they're terrible desperate to get more people using the thing. Is there actually anything at all positive to using LinkedIn?
It led me to 3 different jobs. All three started through LinkedIn communication. During the resume portion of the processes I used LinkedIn Labs to generate a resume from my profile (laziness). In some unfortunate happenstance, it seems the Labs were killed off just yesterday [1].
So, positives are there for me so far.
[1] http://techcabal.com/2016/02/08/linkedin-has-quietly-killed-...
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#14If you want to skip directly to removing your address back integrations from LinkedIn, you can do so at this page: https://www.linkedin.com/contacts/manage_sources/
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#15LinkedIn: what happens to when you build product by growth hacking everything.
I can just picture hundreds of engineers deploying experiments, looking at data and concluding all things that move numbers up are a success... Regardless of how deceiving or confusing the UX might be.
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#16Fully agree with the article. Got caught out by the same nasty trick.
Unfortunately, LinkedIn serves a niche in the market for keeping in touch with ex work colleagues who you don't necessarily know well enough to connect with on Facebook. And to be fair, it's also a good way of getting a job nowadays.
If someone built a better intentioned, less spammy alternative, I think it would stand a good chance of succeeding.
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#17It took half a dozen or so emails to every possible email address I could find on linkedin's site, but I managed to finally have my personal email address added to some global do-not-contact list. I have since stopped receiving any invitations from friends to join. It's really disgusting that they have such functionality, but do not allow people to be added to such a list on their own.
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#18Here's a question to HN: if we were to design an alternative to linkedin (for IT/technical folks), what would be the features you'd want? I'll start: 1) The ability to go no-opportunities. When you're not looking for work, you turn this on, and you will not turn up on any search result. 2) Simple export API, with a guarantee of you having complete say over your data. You may export as a json anytime, and import into…
Not doing 'creepy' things with your data ( http://www.interactually.com/linkedin-creepiest-social-netwo... ) Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9045677 and archived page: https://web.archive.org/web/20150812004139/http://www.stopus...
It's hard to convert this to technical requirement -- this is largely a moral requirement on someone running the service. That's the second best option -- first would be this being technicall not possible.
The only way I can think of to deter this is cost per action. So accounts start with some virtual (or real) currency which spends on actions like connecting or adding to the graph. This will at-least minimize if not stop the behavior.
Any other ways of implementing non-creepiness?
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#19Here's a question to HN: if we were to design an alternative to linkedin (for IT/technical folks), what would be the features you'd want? I'll start: 1) The ability to go no-opportunities. When you're not looking for work, you turn this on, and you will not turn up on any search result. 2) Simple export API, with a guarantee of you having complete say over your data. You may export as a json anytime, and import into…
Generally I'd be reluctant to trust any free service in exchange for my data. LinkedIn is even worse than that because even I pay they constantly overstep and gradually tear down any external APIs (until total user lock-in which is the current state of affair). I can no longer export my own connections, ... or query the interface for basic BI (e.g. which companies in Paris are working on BigData technologies etc). Fu…
Blockchain would also help with the issue in the sibling comment worried about creepiness, where I suggested that actions be paid for.
Is it possible for the value of a node in a blockchain to grow with time, and cardinality. Because that would be killer. No one may create spam nodes, and a pgp like trust develops over time.
Re: LinkedIn dark patterns, or why your friends keep spamming you to sign up for it
#20LinkedIn: what happens to when you build product by growth hacking everything. I can just picture hundreds of engineers deploying experiments, looking at data and concluding all things that move numbers up are a success... Regardless of how deceiving or confusing the UX might be.
Engineers or Managers? The engineer are probably only looking at the data to confirm to the MANAGERS that the numbers are moving up.