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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by kuschku »

lhl wrote: post #483
Bud wrote: post #392

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Conversely, Google Maps is lame for transit everywhere in the world, whereas at least Apple Maps is making rapid progress here.

I visited a dozen+ countries in 4 continents last year - GMaps did a pretty decent (often great) job with public transit. In the cases where there was no/bad data, it usually had more to do with the transit authorities being jackasses than anything in Google's control (Melbourne in particular stuck out as being just terrible).

Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data.

BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by kuschku »

lhl wrote: post #483
Bud wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely, Google Maps is lame for transit everywhere in the world, whereas at least Apple Maps is making rapid progress here.

I visited a dozen+ countries in 4 continents last year - GMaps did a pretty decent (often great) job with public transit. In the cases where there was no/bad data, it usually had more to do with the transit authorities being jackasses than anything in Google's control (Melbourne in particular stuck out as being just terrible).

Well, that doesn't solve the question with the cities where here.com and bing maps have full transit data, and where the data is available via simple REST APIs, but where Google still doesn't have data.

BTW, the Android-App "Öffi" has full support for Melbourne, as Melbourne provides a simple to use API, and has for the past years.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by kuschku »

terinjokes wrote: post #520
lhl wrote: post #483

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I visited a dozen+ countries in 4 continents last year - GMaps did a pretty decent (often great) job with public transit. In the cases where there was no/bad data, it usually had more to do with the transit authorities being jackasses than anything in Google's control (Melbourne in particular stuck out as being just terrible).

After neither GMaps nor CityMapper having transit for Melbourne I just gave up and stood at the stop. :(

Just use Öffi, Öffi has support for almost every city globally, including Tokyo and Melbourne.

But the UI is ugly.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by ino »

mercury_craze wrote: post #518
byroot wrote: post #446

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Once it's running yes. But if you close Spotify, pressing the play key will start iTunes. It's quite infuriating.

Also try clicking a mailto link. I'm sure that about once a day I see the dialog asking me to add an account into the default mail app. Basic integrations between MS Office apps also seem to be missing, I'll be damned if I can find the menu to send a copy of the document I'm working on in Word to a contact in outlook.

Mailto links open chrome with a gmail tab for me.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by keithpeter »

lumpybacon wrote: post #488
andreyvit wrote: post #477

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Depends on your definition of a hassle. I am a happy user of Apple software, I love iTunes. I do experience occasional issues — AirDrop not finding peers, iOS asking for a password when it's not supposed to, iMessage failing to sync SMS read states between the Mac and the phone. If you're okay with occasional problems like that, go ahead and try it.

I suppose every operating system is going to have little problems like that, and if that's all there is, I can manage. It's just that I really liked OS X back in the Leopard and Snow Leopard days. I could almost describe it as a "magical" experience using them, but I'm worried that that magic's gone in these latest versions, as all this recent complaining seems to indicate. Can you perhaps tell me how newer versions…

What development tools do require access to?

A short list of the 'little things that add up' (your post up the tree) with your current set up may be of interest as well as people could then comment on the likelihood of those or similar.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by tripzilch »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #383
readams wrote: post #364

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Try changing the app that launches when you press play/pause on the Mac keyboard. Go ahead. I'll wait.

I just had to look down ... and yep there they are. I had no idea these were on my keyboard. Never used 'em.

For a long time, me neither. Didn't trust those weird "media keys" and indeed expected them to just pop up some default app I never use. Until I accidentally hit them on Linux and it turned out they do exactly what you'd expect. Now I use them all the time :) In particular the play/pause and volume buttons.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by piyush_soni »

sirmiller wrote: post #538
piyush_soni wrote: post #409

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But no software even close to Visual Studio, that's the point.

Tried to buy a Visual Studio license for porting our game to Windows Phone last year. Ended up paying $2K for a version that was able to build WP apps, but not allowed to release them. VS + VA used to be fantastic, today it's just a piece of ... overpriced crap. But maybe expecting more from $2K+ software (VS) than from FREE software (xcode) is wrong.

Not sure what you are talking about. Visual Studio Express allows Windows phone development for free. Of course, for releasing they charge money (much lesser than what Apple charges).

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by geon »

readams wrote: post #364
st3v3r wrote: post #266

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OS X lets you set default apps. I had Chrome set as my default browser for a while.

Try changing the app that launches when you press play/pause on the Mac keyboard. Go ahead. I'll wait.

If VLC is launched, then that's what starts playing.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by vetinari »

piyush_soni wrote: post #495
pswenson wrote: post #425

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what? jetbrains.com (intellij, appcode, pycharm,webstorm, rubymine etc) sublime text atom vim emacs eclipse

Not even close to Visual Studio on Windows, that's the point (I know I'm repeating, but it's sad that I'm having to do that).

Intellij eats Visual Studio for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Twice. Every day.

To make VS somewhat usable, you need Resharper - made by the company, that makes Intellij.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by zimpenfish »

foobarqux wrote: post #348
rayiner wrote: post #208

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> If you want to develop software, then you are pretty much stuck with XCode There are like nine different versions of Emacs for OS X...

Everyone I ask says that using Emacs for ios development is impractical. If anyone knows different please share the details.

I made an iOS app using vim and Lua (via wax - https://github.com/alibaba/wax). Obviously needed the xcode toolchain for compilation and libraries but always from the CLI / scripts.
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