Good news I love Sublime it's so fast and slick - I haven't used Atom because consensus seems to be that it's not as fast with multiple large files open.
Why is everyone obsessed about open source, yes nice to have but at the end of the day this is just a (very sharp) tool - what's your priority tinkering with your tools or getting the job done? 70$ is peanuts, speed and productivity gains way outweigh this.
ST is multi-talented, brilliant for SQL, runs huge Postgres queries directly and lightning fast with full feed back ( error messages line numbers etc) even multi million row result sets don't phase it , any other editor would just gind to a spluttering halt.
Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
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Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#32i really like Sublime. i've used it personally and professionally for years. but it's also the only piece of software that i use, the source code of which i don't have access to. i definitely would prefer something i can hack on for my own pleasure and profit, and my appreciation for FLOSS software has only grown and grown throughout my career. how's atom doing these days? can Sublime HQ really compete in the long ru…
> how's atom doing these days?
Fairly well, IMO. The editor itself has caught up with Sublime for at least everything I care about, the community is very active, and they release updates pretty regularly.
Unfortunately, although performance has gotten noticeably better, it's still way behind Sublime. Opening a new editor window takes about three seconds on my MacBook Air, vs. less than a second for Sublime. I find myself opening new windows pretty often as part of my workflow, so I really, really hope they can cut that down. Also, Atom still struggles with large (>2MB) files, but I don't work with those often enough for it to be a big deal.
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree, up until Atom came out, Sublime had a virtual monopoly in the text editor space but now Atom has much more momentum and more importantly support from many thought leaders in the industry.
Sounds a lot like TextMate pre-Sublime. Atom is the third in a succession of hipster text editors. It'll be interesting to see if it ever gets performant enough to use primarily and if its open nature enables it to perch on the roost a bit longer.
Hispters are going to spacemacs already, before it gets a "1.0" tag.
(Went textmate -> sublime -> atom -> spacemacs by myself)
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#34Sublime Text user here, who switched to Atom a year ago and never looked back. Never had any of the issues others described having with Atom such as slowness, etc. What I love about Atom is that it's under active, fast-paced development, that it's super-easy to customize (first thing was to increase the font-size of the left-hand folder pane), and the available plugins are fantastic. It probably also helps that exten…
Just chiming in to say that this agrees with my experience completely. I also shifted from Sublime to Atom about 18 months ago, and have no regrets. Atom improves at a steady clip, and the package ecosystem is great. Despite the sniffy negativity here on HN, I've never had trouble with Atom performance or stability. I do still use Vim on the console for some things, and that will probably never change, but Atom is has become my "daily driver" code editor.
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#35This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…
> For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong
Let's also not forget:
o Brackets (which I do prefer over ST for Javascript and CSS),
o Visual Studio Code
o EditPlus (not so great with plug ins, but it's such a solid editor that this was my favourite for years before ST)
o Notepad++ (very popular text editor)
o Kate (KDE)
o Emacs (which has long since also had a GUI)
o Plus lots of environment specific editors and micro-IDE's such as:
. Aracnophilia (I used to swear by this in the 90s),
. Bluefish,
. LiteIDE,
I'm no doubt missing off dozens of popular editors, but bar VSC, all of the above have been around for longer than Atom has and many have been around even longer than ST. So it's been a crowded market for quite some time. Which often leaves me wondering why people make such noise about Atom when it always feels somewhat immature compared to any of the above (or at least has done for me whenever I've pulled an ArchLinux AUR package for Atom)
As a side note, it's a pity HN doesn't support an easier method for posting bullet points.
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#36Of course Will Bond will bond
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#37but no SSL... :(
Anyway I love sublime, and really hope the API keeps growing! It's also nice to see Will Bond becoming "official" :) congratulations!
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#38Good news I love Sublime it's so fast and slick - I haven't used Atom because consensus seems to be that it's not as fast with multiple large files open. Why is everyone obsessed about open source, yes nice to have but at the end of the day this is just a (very sharp) tool - what's your priority tinkering with your tools or getting the job done? 70$ is peanuts, speed and productivity gains way outweigh this. ST is mu…
But you understand that Postgres also went a long way and is Open Source?
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#39Good news I love Sublime it's so fast and slick - I haven't used Atom because consensus seems to be that it's not as fast with multiple large files open. Why is everyone obsessed about open source, yes nice to have but at the end of the day this is just a (very sharp) tool - what's your priority tinkering with your tools or getting the job done? 70$ is peanuts, speed and productivity gains way outweigh this. ST is mu…
But you understand that Postgres also went a long way and is Open Source?
That's right! But open source doesn't always necessarily means better software. Atom for sure ain't better than Sublime in terms of speed at this point of time.
Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ
#40This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…
Until Atom is written natively I don't think Sublime Text is going to have a serious competitor.
Why? Speed?
Visual Studio Code is based on JavaScript too and it's very fast. They even both use Electron, the JS-desktop-app core that the Atom guys open sourced separately.