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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by rgoodwintx »

true_religion wrote: post #415
chipx86 wrote: post #384

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My MacBook Pro is from 2012, but I have 16GB of RAM in it. I regularly have something like 10 windows with about 15 or so tabs in each. It can get bogged down at times, but generally works fine. Chrome wants RAM, so I think that's the real blocker in your case.

Yes, I learned my lesson of thinking 4GB was good enough. It's better to have 8GB minimum, but best of all to get as much ram as possible on a machine.

The extension "The Great Suspender" works wonders here; suspends tabs in the background when they've been idle, but you don't lose your place. It has singlehandedly made Chrome usable again for me, while simultaneously enabling my 40+ tab habit. 90% of the time you don't need the tab to be active, you just want it there so you can revisit later. (For me anyway.)

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Post by kentosi »

Caballeras wrote: post #427
kalleboo wrote: post #403

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Someone clearly lives in the US... Probably in the Bay Area. edit: just tested Apple Maps with a couple searches I did in Google Maps yesterday. Searched for the carrier shops for the two biggest carriers in my country. First search took me to Australia. The other ones found nothing in my city (there are probably at least 10-20 of each carrier in this town) and zoomed out to country level. Still completely and utterl…

According to this article http://fortune.com/2015/06/16/apple-google-maps-ios/ Apples maps is used by Apple iPhone users more then Google Maps. So it's hard to believe it's as bad as you claim.

Hardly surprising, given it's installed by default. And that clicking on an address (say, on a website or a text message) leads up Apple's Maps by default.

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #175
nostrademons wrote: post #159

It's kinda weird to read commentators talking as if this was the end of a golden age of Apple. From my perspective, their application software has always sucked. It was there because you need apps to bootstrap a platform and attract enough users to attract developers. But you can't really expect a consumer electronics company to have the best application for a given niche once the niche has been identified and attrac…

Could you please express your opinions without using the term "brainwashing"? I think Safari and iMessages are vastly superior to Chrome and Hangouts and that doesn't make me an idiot.

Chrome might not be the best, but Safari is very far behind.

http://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/

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Post by to3m »

foobarqux wrote: post #348
rayiner wrote: post #208

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> If you want to develop software, then you are pretty much stuck with XCode There are like nine different versions of Emacs for OS X...

Everyone I ask says that using Emacs for ios development is impractical. If anyone knows different please share the details.

Getting the code building with M-x compile should be fairly straightforward.

For deployment + debugging, you could try this: https://github.com/phonegap/ios-deploy

Looks like it runs lldb itself, but perhaps with a bit of work you could get it to interact with gud-mode?

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Post by ridgeguy »

Reedx wrote: post #280
midnitewarrior wrote: post #96

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If Steve were alive, people would be getting fired after comments from Walt such as these.

I'm not sure about that... iTunes has always been awful.

I agree. Apple bought Soundjam MP [1] and turned it into iTunes, ruining it in the process.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundJam_MP

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Post by ahefner »

marincounty wrote: post #292
bphogan wrote: post #223

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The alternative is that I need to have 30 versions of Chrome laying around because they update every week or two. Surely there has to be a middle ground. :)

I have a three year old MacBook. I would like to use Chrome, but it brings my laptop to a crawl. Almost unusuable. I just figured it was my 4 gigs of RAM, and everyone was having a problem with Chrome? You guys run Chrome with no problems? You must have more ram?

2010 Macbook Pro, 8 GB RAM, Chrome runs just great. Never believed I'd get this kind of longevity out of a laptop.

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Post by themartorana »

oksawe wrote: post #334
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #175

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Could you please express your opinions without using the term "brainwashing"? I think Safari and iMessages are vastly superior to Chrome and Hangouts and that doesn't make me an idiot.

Thank you I completely agree. Chrome is garbage and I wouldn't trust google with my photos or calendar data.

You're missing out. Google Photos is a revelation. But condemn the company for a product because absolutes are the best way to think.

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Post by ld00d »

chrisblackwell wrote: post #277

OSX fan here: Everyone is completely misunderstanding our recent criticisms of Apple software. We don't hate Apple software! We have seen a steady decline over the last few years, and so we are expressing our concerns. This does not translate to us hating the software. We know what Apple can do when it really focuses on the quality of it's software (see OSX Snow Leopard). I still think OSX is more stable and useable…

Even with the problems, I still prefer OS X to anything else. Apple claims a higher standard, and everyone wants to hold them to it. They're falling short of their standard, but they're falling to a higher point than the alternatives IMO.

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Post by ld00d »

tajen wrote: post #258
sithadmin wrote: post #19

>Mossberg pointed to "a gradual degradation in the quality and reliability of Apple’s core apps." He fingered iTunes for the desktop ("I dread opening the thing"), and the Mail, Photos, and iCloud programs. As somebody that's used a Mac for 90%+ of all computing-related tasks since OS X was released, all of the above-mentioned apps/services have been dead to me for years. I honestly can't remember the last time I pur…

To whomever would hear it: I want and need a deluxe Linux OS for which I would pay $200/year, which would do things well. This includes: - Porting bugfixes forward (I dropped Ubuntu because they didn't port a bugfix from 12.x to 13.04 - After 2 days trying to recover my network auth, I asked a Mac to my boss). - Designed for me, not for monkeys with big fingers who bring up Amazon results for every search (That's not…

Elementary is almost there.
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