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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by Bud »

stordoff wrote: post #329
lobster_johnson wrote: post #276

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Apple Maps' reputation is much worse than it deserves. These days it is better than Google Maps, in my opinion: Better map pins, better graphical performance, better rendering style, better search.

> Apple Maps' reputation is much worse than it deserves I haven't used it since launch, so can't comment on its current performance, but AFAICT its reputation is due to how poor it was at launch. I tried it with three locations that Google Maps handled fine (small sample I know, but enough to put me off trying it further), and had problems with all three results (my house: low-res satellite imagery; my College: wrong…

It's not that hard to shake your initial impression, actually. It's called actually using the product at any time in the last 3 years, for 10 minutes or so. Try it. You might be surprised.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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level3 wrote: post #338
kuschku wrote: post #281

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In my city, Google Maps has NO transit, NO satellite images since 2004, NO map data since 2010. Here maps has satellite and transit, and Apple Maps even has full 3D buildings. Following is a set of complaints I compiled last year when a Google employee asked me on reddit to post them more detail about my maps complaints. The usability of any Google product outside the US is a total disaster, and it’s a wonder how Goo…

Conversely, Apple Maps still has no transit in Tokyo, rendering it completely unusable in one of the iPhone's largest markets. So don't extrapolate your city to the rest of the world.

Conversely, Google Maps is lame for transit everywhere in the world, whereas at least Apple Maps is making rapid progress here.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by Bud »

marincounty wrote: post #317
samastur wrote: post #253

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When was this golden age? I've been a Mac user for about 10 years and it was never better than now, probably the opposite. Every edition had bunch of bugs I hated. Before then I regularly tested Mac for local computer magazine and it didn't look better either. I even managed to freeze Mac OSX 10.1 with first mouse click when it arrived in our lab. Before then we had lots of fun looking at ways you could hang by that…

I have a feeling you have new Apple products. I have a three year old MacBook, and I believe, a four year old Ipad2. I want to believe it was just the iPad and too much JavaScript, but my laptop is not what I expect from a three year laptop. That wheel is spinning way too much. Chrome brings it to unusuable, but figured it was my fault. I only have 4 gigs. Actually, I though 4 gigs would be enough? I do not believe i…

Clear Chrome's cache every two weeks, and restart Chrome every night. There. Done.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by Bud »

r00fus wrote: post #345
Spooky23 wrote: post #6

The Apple Music thing is my pet peeve. I bought a $2500 iMac. I carry a nearly $1000 phone. I don't want Apple Music. Leave me alone. I get periodic full screen ads when I try to listen to music. Is that too much to ask?

As someone who in general is a huge Apple fan, I feel Apple Music was entirely avoidable mistake, and detracts from their brand. They need to rethink this app/service.

Respectfully disagree. I'm a professional classical musician, and I LOVE the access to a huge library of music that Apple Music gives me.

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Post by x0 »

cyphar wrote: post #366
jjoonathan wrote: post #306

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> anyone who used the whole integrated Apple software suite and never looked elsewhere has been missing out on some seriously nice features this whole time Ditto for anyone not using the Apple ecosystem. Better tested drivers installed by default, no OS license hassles, no issues created by malfunctioning (or maliciously functioning) antivirus, top download sites weren't infested with malware (no hunt for the real DL…

Okay, so Windows sucks (big surprise). What about GNU/Linux? I've been using it for more than 5 years full-time and I've never had any show-stopping problems or problems that couldn't be solved with a 5-minute Google search.

Oh man... for the last 2 years I've been running Linux servers, I have tried and tried and tried to run Linux on my desktop, but... I have just never had a good experience.

For instance, when I tried Xubuntu, my GPU was running at a constant 90 degrees Celsius for no real reason. Found out it was because it was also rendering another 5 screens in the background. Deleted them, after 3-4 days they would come back. My screen was 1920x1080, but it liked to change my resolution to 1024x768 every 5 or so boots.

Tonnes of small problems, like the "settings" program emptied itself. Then the Windows key would stop bringing up the menu thing. And icons liked to disappear from my desktop.

Then when I tried Debian, I could install it fine, but couldn't boot. Pretty sure this was also to do with the GPU.

Then when I tried Linux Mint, it worked okay for a day, then apparently I didn't have permission to change wireless networks, and I had to plug in a PS2 keyboard to decrypt the volume on boot (though this was easy enough to fix, just had to find the right Logitech USB Keyboard module to put into the initramfs). Again, many small issues that escape me right now.

The only distro that has worked well, with no bugs (that I didn't introduce), was Arch, but Arch is a real mission. Only thing is my wifi speed is slower than it is on Windows/OS X (~600kB/s down from ~1000kB/s, not a huge deal). Arch is great as a project IMO, but if I have to write an email or do banking or something, I really don't want to have to mess around with config files.

I love Linux so much, but that's why I'm currently an OS X user.

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DanBC wrote: post #205
threeseed wrote: post #140

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Metal doesn't flex. Plastic does. It's not just about how it looks although they do look great. I was still using a MacBook Pro 17 from 2011 up until a few months ago. It is still rock solid with no creaks or wear/tear. And let me ask you do you buy a car based on how it looks ? How about clothes ?

> Metal doesn't flex. Plastic does. That's the benefit of plastic for portable, droppable, devices.

No, it's not. Plastic cracks and breaks when you drop it. Trying to sell this as a benefit ain't flyin.

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Post by Bud »

slantyyz wrote: post #174
midnitewarrior wrote: post #96

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If Steve were alive, people would be getting fired after comments from Walt such as these.

>> If Steve were alive... Well, if he was alive, a lot of weird design choices would not have been made. Like the pencil sticking out of the iPad, that weird battery pack, the magic mouse with the charging port on the bottom, etc.

Can we grow up and get over the stupid fucking "pencil sticking out of the iPad" meme? The thing charges enough for several days' usage in ONE MINUTE. Get over it, people.

Same thing for Magic Mouse. You think you can design it better? You have a better place for that port? The damn thing needs a few MINUTES of charge time per month. It's a non-issue. The port is exactly where it should be.

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Post by wlesieutre »

magicalist wrote: post #321
wlesieutre wrote: post #298

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Agreed. I'm unfortunately forced to use the Hangouts app on android since Google Voice was smushed into it (losing 90% of its best features in the process, like being able to mark voicemails as spam). So now I'm stuck doing my texting shoehorned alongside this other chat app that none of my friends use except by accident when they meant to send a text. Now Google's decided to split SMS back out into a separate SMS ap…

> Agreed. I'm unfortunately forced to use the Hangouts app on android since Google Voice was smushed into it (losing 90% of its best features in the process, like being able to mark voicemails as spam). So now I'm stuck doing my texting shoehorned alongside this other chat app that none of my friends use except by accident when they meant to send a text. You can go into hangouts settings and turn off google voice han…

The problem was actually that once you'd migrated a GV account to using hangouts, there was no way to go back. Did a bit of looking and this is no longer the case: http://i.imgur.com/qtxfYGP.png

So I guess I can go back. I'd miss the better voice calling integration (the one improvement that "hangouts dialer" brought) and I'm not sure how well maintained the GV app is these days, but I may give it a go.

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Post by poopsintub »

treve wrote: post #5
skorecky wrote: post #2

I think there is a decline in the quality of Apple's software. However I think there is a correlation between the amount of users and complaints / bugs found. Now that Apple has a large and growing user base the seeming quality is also degrading. However I could be wrong, just my opinion. Personally I haven't had as many issues as described in the article e.g. Preview has always worked fine for me. However the bigges…

Try running an up-to-date OS X on a machine that came with a magnetic disk. It's become practically unusable.

Mid-2012 MBP with 2.5 Ghz i5, 4GB ram here. I thought Mavericks sped it up, but Yosemite is unnoticeable. I couldn't tell you if it is faster or slower than when I bought it, to be honest. All the problems people mention in the thread, I'm somewhat surprised by. I guess I'm lucky enough to not have wifi issues, rely on iTunes, or Apple Music.
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