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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by lobster_johnson »

stestagg wrote: post #63
untog wrote: post #38

I don't much care about the software - I haven't used iTunes in years, don't use Mail, etc. etc. - it's the operating system I care about. Wi-fi has been buggy on OS X for literally years now. And each new major release seems to bring some new pain point where it refuses to turn on, refuses to connect, doesn't transmit data... and on and on. There's no way Apple can't know about this - it must drive their own employe…

I've found that wifi is buggy generally with lower end APs. It may be Apple employees generally have a better class of router/wifi

Can anyone in this thread recommend a rock solid off-the-shelf wifi router?

The last year I have gone through three routers:

* Asus RT-N66U ("the Dark Knight"), worked fine on 2.5GHz, but the 5GHz signal gradually became worse until one day it just disppeared. Apparently a lot of users have had this issue.

* Asus RT-AC66U, the smaller version of the same router. Just stopped working occasionally, requiring a reboot.

* Netgear AC1750 R6400-100NAS (little brother to the "Nighthawk"). Current router, was stable enough for a while, but now needs rebooting a couple of times every week. SSL/TLS connections stop working randomly. Devices such as iPhone and AppleTV fail to get packets through on the first try after being dormant for a while.

At work we have the Netgear AC1900/R7000 "Nighthawk", which has been extremely stable. But it's also quite expensive, and large (as is the AC1750).

I've lost all faith in Asus, and the only other brand I can see that has a good reputation is Ubiquity. They make "pro" access points for hotels and such. Then again, hotel wifi is the worst.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by harel »

st3v3r wrote: post #266
stephengillie wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were this Windows, there would be a 3rd party app...err application... that would let you change the default launch app. Why not on OSX?

OS X lets you set default apps. I had Chrome set as my default browser for a while.

Is that just Safari with a Chrome chrome?

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by tuananh »

MatthaeusHarris wrote: post #294
tluyben2 wrote: post #168

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Maybe not important for you but crucial for me; the M3800 has dismal battery life. And probably with Linux that is even worse.

I'm running an M3800 with Mint Linux 17.3. I can squeeze 2 hours out of the battery if I really need to; suspend/hibernate is currently completely broken, requiring that I cold boot the machine each time I open the lid; bluetooth has never worked properly, even after extracting the proprietary firmware from the Windows drivers. And this is on a machine that shipped from Dell with Ubuntu 14.04 installed, so supposedly…

I could never accept ~2 hours on a $2000-ish machine.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by LargeCompanies »

Personally, Apple better release something cool and jaw droppingly innovative either the iPhone 7 with needed features (waterproof & wireless charging), Apple TV cable TV service or something amazing as Im slowly losing interest.

Android isn't exciting either nowadays.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by r00fus »

Spooky23 wrote: post #6

The Apple Music thing is my pet peeve. I bought a $2500 iMac. I carry a nearly $1000 phone. I don't want Apple Music. Leave me alone. I get periodic full screen ads when I try to listen to music. Is that too much to ask?

As someone who in general is a huge Apple fan, I feel Apple Music was entirely avoidable mistake, and detracts from their brand.

They need to rethink this app/service.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by y2bd »

harel wrote: post #342
st3v3r wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OS X lets you set default apps. I had Chrome set as my default browser for a while.

Is that just Safari with a Chrome chrome?

He's talking about OSX (desktop), where Chrome indeed is the Chrome you'd expect.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by foobarqux »

rayiner wrote: post #208
Skunkleton wrote: post #188

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> It was there because you need apps to bootstrap a platform and attract enough users to attract developers. But you can't really expect a consumer electronics company to have the best application for a given niche once the niche has been identified and attracted companies that really want to make it their bread-and-butter. I have a hard time with this. Apple products tend to lock you into apple software. If you want…

> If you want to develop software, then you are pretty much stuck with XCode There are like nine different versions of Emacs for OS X...

Everyone I ask says that using Emacs for ios development is impractical. If anyone knows different please share the details.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by xlayn »

rayiner wrote: post #100
mmastrac wrote: post #3

It's not just software. While I'm still a fan of Macbooks, I'm getting close to abandoning ship thanks to the increasingly un-repairability of these things. I have a Macbook from ~2008 that's still functional as a media PC thanks to memory/SSD upgrades and battery replacements over the years. My current Macbook Pro has memory soldered on to the motherboard and a battery glued to the case. The SSD is technically repla…

Comparable laptops aren't really any better. The rMBP is a lot more repairable than say the Surface Book (which won't let you even open the case without possibly cracking the display). At least Apple has a battery replacement service at an advertised price--what'll Dell charge you to replace the non-servicable battery in the XPS13 or XPS15? And no other PC laptop hits that right sweet spot of power/battery/display qu…

>[1] My non-technical wife, who has a Mac, recently needed to use my work laptop. Her first reaction on seeing the screen was "wow, your firm cheaped out, huh?" I've got a totally maxed out ThinkPad T450s with i7, 20GB of RAM, and FHD IPS display.

Oxymoron: tech reasons of how great your computer is; and an argument on why a non technical people don't like it.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by mahranch »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #247
unethical_ban wrote: post #244

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I'm 27 and just want my rig to work. That's why I build my own PC, demand mobile phones with replaceable batteries, and have a great 6 year old Lenovo laptop that, besides a slow-ish CPU, is spec'ed pretty well for 2016.

Different strokes. I've got better things to do with my time. I'd rather walk into the Apple store and replace my MBA or my iPhone when I've got a problem. That saves me time for my wife or my hobbies. Trade money for things that save you time, to spend that time on what's important to you (if you've got the money).

> I've got better things to do with my time. I'd rather walk into the Apple store and replace my MBA or my iPhone when I've got a problem.

I don't get the comparison.

It's like apple users think the only options are buy apple (expensive, but "allegedly" rarely needs fixing, works 99% of the time, lasts a long time, etc) and a PC ("allegedly" breaks all the time, requires more maintenance, requires more time to keep up with, "cheap", etc...)

Those are not the options -- it's a false premise. There are laptop PCs which have the exact same performance & reliability as apple, but for a fraction of the price. I've gone through 4 PC laptops since 1996. My first 2 laptops, I admit, I spent a lot of time repairing but that was due to my own youthful tinkering, experimenting and the general instability of earlier OSs (DOS, Win95, Win98/ME, etc).

But my last 2 have lasted me 7+ years a piece. And I only decided to upgrade because they were beginning to show their age (slower compared to newer stuff). You can buy PC laptops with the same "just works" fidelity as apple. More options open up, and you can save yourself a fortune, if people would just eschew their brand loyalty.

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