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Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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post #27

Sorry, nothing happened. Firefox on OSX. Prolly the worst [anti-Flash] troll post so far.

[Updated for technical clarity, rather than refuting bias]

Reading the original article, the issues seems to be with AVM1, the portion of the Flash Player dedicated to legacy Flash (v8 and older). Flash Player was updated in 2006 to include AVM2 and that's been Adobe's focus ever since.

Translation for HTML people: it's like pointing out IE6 bugs that still show up in IE7.

This is nothing more than an out of date flame post.

(Downvoters: have you actually looked at the nature of the bug?)

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

#34
post #3

Much praise to the Google Chrome team for handling this sort of thing gracefully.

It handles it less gracefully than I would have assumed. If you are running flash in multiple Chrome windows, this will corrupt ALL of them, instead of just the one visiting the page linked above. Wasnt one of Chrome's huge selling features the idea of memory independence?

Memory independence + plugin that isn't designed to run multiple processes = plugin that can only run in one process. Imagine if Flash, forced into running twice, tried to read and write from the same cookie / any other kind of data, without any concurrency tools of any kind.

Chrome has to run Flash how Flash wants to be run, because doing otherwise could cause massive problems with any plugin. This is part of why it took so long for them to make Chrome, resolving the memory independence desires with the needs of plugins requires giving some things up. It was either roughly all plugins in existence, or allow the same process to interact with multiple tabs / windows.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

#35
post #33
post #27

Sorry, nothing happened. Firefox on OSX. Prolly the worst [anti-Flash] troll post so far.

[Updated for technical clarity, rather than refuting bias] Reading the original article, the issues seems to be with AVM1, the portion of the Flash Player dedicated to legacy Flash (v8 and older). Flash Player was updated in 2006 to include AVM2 and that's been Adobe's focus ever since. Translation for HTML people: it's like pointing out IE6 bugs that still show up in IE7. This is nothing more than an out of date fla…

Adobe's CTO claimed that they don't ship versions of Flash that are known to crash. The bug this triggers is more than a year old and the only versions it does not crash is the most recent _beta_ version of Flash. The post merely points out the deception in Lynch's claims.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

#36
post #35
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Updated for technical clarity, rather than refuting bias] Reading the original article, the issues seems to be with AVM1, the portion of the Flash Player dedicated to legacy Flash (v8 and older). Flash Player was updated in 2006 to include AVM2 and that's been Adobe's focus ever since. Translation for HTML people: it's like pointing out IE6 bugs that still show up in IE7. This is nothing more than an out of date fla…

Adobe's CTO claimed that they don't ship versions of Flash that are known to crash. The bug this triggers is more than a year old and the only versions it does not crash is the most recent _beta_ version of Flash. The post merely points out the deception in Lynch's claims.

I updated my post to explain why the bug is irrelevant.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

#37
post #33
post #27

Sorry, nothing happened. Firefox on OSX. Prolly the worst [anti-Flash] troll post so far.

[Updated for technical clarity, rather than refuting bias] Reading the original article, the issues seems to be with AVM1, the portion of the Flash Player dedicated to legacy Flash (v8 and older). Flash Player was updated in 2006 to include AVM2 and that's been Adobe's focus ever since. Translation for HTML people: it's like pointing out IE6 bugs that still show up in IE7. This is nothing more than an out of date fla…

Considering it's still occurring in the most recent release of Flash Player 10, I'd say it's nothing like pointing out IE6 bugs at all.

If they had actually fixed that bug in the Flash plugin and people were using older versions, then you might have a point.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

#40
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[Updated for technical clarity, rather than refuting bias] Reading the original article, the issues seems to be with AVM1, the portion of the Flash Player dedicated to legacy Flash (v8 and older). Flash Player was updated in 2006 to include AVM2 and that's been Adobe's focus ever since. Translation for HTML people: it's like pointing out IE6 bugs that still show up in IE7. This is nothing more than an out of date fla…

Considering it's still occurring in the most recent release of Flash Player 10, I'd say it's nothing like pointing out IE6 bugs at all. If they had actually fixed that bug in the Flash plugin and people were using older versions, then you might have a point.

The bug has to do with loading 5+ year old Flash 7/8 swfs.

A better analogy would be he's making a stink about a Carbon bug for obsolete OS 8/9 apps. Carbon still ships with OSX and serves the same purpose as AVM1 in Flash Player: basic (but not perfect) backwards-compatibility for legacy code.

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