People in the US should be complaining to the FTC. In the very least, for phone's under warranty, Magnuson-Moss should apply if Apple isn't fixing these problems for free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty...
iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
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Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would you suggest instead and why?
Call it what it actually is: short sighted, greedy, foolish, etc. Don't use a word that puts down people with disabilities.
He wasn't disparaging the differently abled. You have just failed to understand what was said and in the process have made a retarded comment.
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#73It's totally dumb that a functioning phone is bricked by an update because of repairs done in the past. Imagine the same thing happening to your car. "Sorry sir, the software update done to your car has now disabled the vehicle because in the past someone not related to x (insert name of car company here) has repaired it, your car is now junk (you can't even resell it) and you'll have to buy a new one". It's just pet…
Remember the woman who proved that Apple consistently slows down sold iPhones with "updates" right before the launch date of a new model? [0] Apple is in the business of selling (overpriced/overengineered) hardware. Their tactics make that very clear. The only problem with that is that there is no real competition in mobile phones anymore, it's just a giant duopoly. Sure, you can switch to Google/Android, which as th…
Remember the woman who proved that Apple consistently slows down sold iPhones with "updates" right before the launch date of a new model?
No, because that never was a fucking thing.
Seriously, this is supposed to be a community of reasonably well-informed tech-oriented people. Step back for a second, take a deep breath, and think before you spread nonsense like this. Jesus.
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#74Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
you can't say anything anymore in the us because of the pc police
Your statement could indicate a range of opinions ranging from ones I agree with to those that are merely a fig-leaf for blatant racism. I'm afraid you'll have to express yourself in some more detail and avoid hollow cliches. This is a complex and nuanced debate.
there is such a thing as being overly polite, to the point that your speech is just bland platitudes when your main concern is not offending anyone
and guess what? even then, people are going to get offended
there is a limit to how much you can sugarcoat everything you say in public, and i think the us has passed that limit into oversensitive territory
you are right, it is nuanced
my strategy is to say "sorry" when it's due, rather than overthink every minute iota. of course, i'm not running for office and i don't live in the us
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#76It's totally dumb that a functioning phone is bricked by an update because of repairs done in the past. Imagine the same thing happening to your car. "Sorry sir, the software update done to your car has now disabled the vehicle because in the past someone not related to x (insert name of car company here) has repaired it, your car is now junk (you can't even resell it) and you'll have to buy a new one". It's just pet…
Remember the woman who proved that Apple consistently slows down sold iPhones with "updates" right before the launch date of a new model? [0] Apple is in the business of selling (overpriced/overengineered) hardware. Their tactics make that very clear. The only problem with that is that there is no real competition in mobile phones anymore, it's just a giant duopoly. Sure, you can switch to Google/Android, which as th…
>> Sure, you can switch to Google/Android, which as the giant ad company (in other words: personal data hover/mass surveillance company)
While on the iPhone: Do you use Google search ? Do you use Google maps ?
Well, if you do , there's not much sense in hiding from Google. And if you use Android, you could use tools like cyanogen's "privacy guard" to hide your data from all/most app authors , which i don't think you can do in iOS.
Also , unless they target you specifically, so long that you use an alternative keyboard - i don't think Google on Android collects your key press data - so you can use anonymity apps for special circumstances, But i could be wrong about that. Same goes for encryption keys, unless your targeted.
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If I understand this correctly (not an iphone person), the touch ID sensor is just a fingerprint scanner? As a standalone measure, biometrics make a shitty password substitute because you can't change a finger print if it's compromised, so shouldn't the iphone be secured on the premise that the finger print scanner is already compromised, hence losing it should not qualify as a downgrade attack?
Touch ID is a fingerprint scanner, but the Touch ID system is paired with the "Secure Enclave" in Apple's AX chips. Secure Enclave is a separate coprocessor running its own L4-based microkernel. This hardware is directly paired with security-sensitive hardware (Touch ID, Apple Pay NFC chip, etc). It provides all cryptographic operations for data protection key management and maintains the integrity of data protection…
Aha, that makes more sense.
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#78I don't see why people are upset or surprised about this. Apple is a pioneer in making electronics difficult to open up and play with. It has always been their approach to control every interaction that every customer has with every part of their business and every product produced by it. Accept it or use something else.
Yeah, Apple are evil geniuses. They are prodigies at making money and expanding their business, at the expense of their users. It also seems like a majority of people on this site have some kind of Stockholm syndrome with regard to Apple. I guess making people reliant and locked in to their system is part of their genius. Of course people in that situation will find ingenious logical contortions to go through to just…
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downvote you or announce that you expect to get downvoted.
You will, of course, be down voted – because of your childish insistence that anybody who thinks differently from you is suffering from some kind of illness.
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#79Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand this is done to protect the customers from tampered with Touch ID sensors. It may be overly paranoid but I can at least understand the motivation behind this. Changing the display also involves disconnecting the Touch ID sensor so technically a malicious person might have done something that exposes the user of the device in some way. Statement from an Apple spokesw…
Yes, but instead of disabling authentication with the non-authenticated TouchID sensor it bricks the phone.
Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I understand this correctly (not an iphone person), the touch ID sensor is just a fingerprint scanner? As a standalone measure, biometrics make a shitty password substitute because you can't change a finger print if it's compromised, so shouldn't the iphone be secured on the premise that the finger print scanner is already compromised, hence losing it should not qualify as a downgrade attack?
Touch ID is a fingerprint scanner, but the Touch ID system is paired with the "Secure Enclave" in Apple's AX chips. Secure Enclave is a separate coprocessor running its own L4-based microkernel. This hardware is directly paired with security-sensitive hardware (Touch ID, Apple Pay NFC chip, etc). It provides all cryptographic operations for data protection key management and maintains the integrity of data protection…
Does this mean your fingerprint never leaves the scanners coprocessor and is inaccessible to iOS and the other processors and OSs within the phone?