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iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by jacquesm »

mtgx wrote: post #24
jacquesm wrote: post #4

It's totally dumb that a functioning phone is bricked by an update because of repairs done in the past. Imagine the same thing happening to your car. "Sorry sir, the software update done to your car has now disabled the vehicle because in the past someone not related to x (insert name of car company here) has repaired it, your car is now junk (you can't even resell it) and you'll have to buy a new one". It's just pet…

I could maybe see as a good thing from a security point of view, although I'm not sure if bricking is the right solution here. If my self-driving car gets hacked (whether physically or its software), I'd rather it stopped working than let it drive hacked.

Where did the hacked self driving car come from?

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by 6d6b73 »

minikites wrote: post #15
jacquesm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you suggest instead and why?

Call it what it actually is: short sighted, greedy, foolish, etc. Don't use a word that puts down people with disabilities.

Does fire retardant put down people with disabilities? He used a normal word in a right context. He did not write "retards".

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by minikites »

ddorian43 wrote: post #19
minikites wrote: post #8

>retarded Don't say this.

Do watch these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWBvB4U-cA

You sound like one of those white guys that say "Why can't I say the n-word if I feel like it!!"

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by minikites »

evook wrote: post #20
minikites wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call it what it actually is: short sighted, greedy, foolish, etc. Don't use a word that puts down people with disabilities.

But you have to be a little disabled to find such an idea worth to be executed?

No?

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by interpol_p »

jacquesm wrote: post #4

It's totally dumb that a functioning phone is bricked by an update because of repairs done in the past. Imagine the same thing happening to your car. "Sorry sir, the software update done to your car has now disabled the vehicle because in the past someone not related to x (insert name of car company here) has repaired it, your car is now junk (you can't even resell it) and you'll have to buy a new one". It's just pet…

Seems more like short sightedness than "petty revenge."

The new home button hardware can't be securely validated, and a future OS update fails on the unexpected condition of invalid Touch ID hardware. I can imagine that this wasn't a prioritised testing scenario, likely not even considered by Apple when developing iOS.

It's a lousy way to fail — the phone should just disable Touch ID and Apple Pay, and anything that relies on the secure co-processor.

But it feels far more like there's an `else` branch sitting in the iOS codebase somewhere where a programmer has written:

//NOTE: This should never, ever happen

//.. code that triggers error 53

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by minikites »

mppm wrote: post #23
minikites wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call it what it actually is: short sighted, greedy, foolish, etc. Don't use a word that puts down people with disabilities.

Did you just say short sighted? Not everybody has perfect eyesight, you know, but that doesn't make us stupid. You hater, you.

Are people with myopia discriminated against in society?

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by everyone »

david_mitchell wrote: post #12

I don't see why people are upset or surprised about this. Apple is a pioneer in making electronics difficult to open up and play with. It has always been their approach to control every interaction that every customer has with every part of their business and every product produced by it. Accept it or use something else.

Yeah, Apple are evil geniuses. They are prodigies at making money and expanding their business, at the expense of their users. It also seems like a majority of people on this site have some kind of Stockholm syndrome with regard to Apple. I guess making people reliant and locked in to their system is part of their genius. Of course people in that situation will find ingenious logical contortions to go through to justify their continued faith.

Also, mass downvoting of this comment in 3. 2. 1 ...

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by benevol »

jacquesm wrote: post #4

It's totally dumb that a functioning phone is bricked by an update because of repairs done in the past. Imagine the same thing happening to your car. "Sorry sir, the software update done to your car has now disabled the vehicle because in the past someone not related to x (insert name of car company here) has repaired it, your car is now junk (you can't even resell it) and you'll have to buy a new one". It's just pet…

Remember the woman who proved that Apple consistently slows down sold iPhones with "updates" right before the launch date of a new model? [0]

Apple is in the business of selling (overpriced/overengineered) hardware. Their tactics make that very clear.

The only problem with that is that there is no real competition in mobile phones anymore, it's just a giant duopoly. Sure, you can switch to Google/Android, which as the giant ad company (in other words: personal data hover/mass surveillance company) is just as bad.

My only hope is for Ubuntu to make the right moves soon.

[0] A source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-...

Re: iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs

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Post by minikites »

markyc wrote: post #35
minikites wrote: post #8

>retarded Don't say this.

you can't say anything anymore in the us because of the pc police

You can't use pejoratives against people's ethnicity or mental/physical disability in polite society. That's not the same as being actually oppressed, sorry.
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