Looker is a much better product.
Agree, Looker customer here. Awesome product for ad-hoc BI reporting. Sits on top of Amazon Redshift perfectly and is quite fast for ad-hoc reporting.
Tableau stock down almost 50%
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Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#262I was an early adopter of Tableau and fairly enthusiastic. But then I had a truly terrible licencing experience with them and have, since, refused to have ANYTHING to do with them.
Nice enough software, but a sleazy organisation. Use one of the other good alternatives.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#263Apologies if the following is ignorant: My exp with tableau was always that they obfuscate the final query... Fuck that. Looker doesn't && they even allow a meta Lang on top of them. So for you to say "just do X" leaves many less sophisticated orgs left in the dark. So my comment is both: Fuck their position and yours. I don't want to pay bullshit fees to tableau (with perf hits) && not be able to see the final query…
Downvoted. Your point may not be ignorant, but it certainly seems that way given the unnecessarily violent language.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tableau Public isn't sufficient?
Is it able to do everything the client software can do?
It's limited to flat files, so you have to plan ahead on what data you'll explore. In terms of the viz - feature parity, but not quite the same at all if you want to do exploration. Which is too bad, because Tableau's ease of exploration is what makes it so much more valuable than PowerBI or custom d3.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#265I was previously a Tableau expert at my then job. I was amazed at the missed opportunities by Tableau to make it indispensable to organizations. The core product was fine but it seemed like they could use a good PM to implement features around sharing, permissions, pricing etc. $1000 license for clients to view some basic report in a browser, the other option being a desktop installed reader.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#266I was an early adopter of Tableau and fairly enthusiastic. But then I had a truly terrible licencing experience with them and have, since, refused to have ANYTHING to do with them. Nice enough software, but a sleazy organisation. Use one of the other good alternatives.
What happened with the licensing? I see a few other people complaining about this.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tableau is not scriptable. 3 places I have worked are moving away from it because of this severe limitation. You have no control over what queries it writes and you can't easily add simple scripts to make things more seamless or performant, like say a quick scripted query to populate a dropdown menu.
I've played with Tableau, is there no scripting at all? Their previous Director of Analytic Product Management Stephen McDaniel stated that in v8 they were going to add server side Javascript - and he said this in 2012 ... https://community.tableau.com/ideas/1694#comment-2661
Many companies have said things that never materialized. Landscape changes over time.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#268New Relic also down by 25%, crazy day for Silicon Valley.
New Relic CEO (Lewis Cirne) sold all his shares the day before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11045065
And New Relic shuts down their Seattle office: http://www.geekwire.com/2016/new-relic-shuts-seattle-office-...
AppDynamics, their direct competitor, is a late stage VC Unicorn ($2 bio evaluation) and delays its IPO.
Dynatrace another rather old-school competitor (like CA), which was bought out of Compuware by Thomas Bravo (private investor), has been taken private.
New Relic depends on smb sales, AppDynamics and Dynatrace more on enterprise sales. New Relic has the easier to use product, AppDynamic and Dynatrace are better at enterprise bullshit bingo and show more "nested pages" with often less detailed data to hide that they have worse/lacking insight. They stopped innovating like 2 years ago.
All three companies have a lot of employees and burn through their capital. Doesn't look good.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#269I can hack d3js. Can crunch billions of records in a flash of the eye, can wrangle most any DB (NoSQL, et al) out there, why would I need Tableau? Answer: We want someone stable! Not some crazy hacker. Plus if we don't spend the cash, we don't have it in our budget next year. Oh, I get it now. :-)
Tableau is for business users to generate graphs. Also d3js is a bear to work with until you've steeped your brain in it. By your logic, there's no need to use MS Word, people should just use TeX.
Well said, the word/tex analogy is spot on.
Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%
#270Tableau is a good product. I use it daily. There simply is no better alternative for quick ad-hoc, enterprise-level, intuitive graph and dashboard making. I've been at large orgs where we evaluated all the cloud services like Mixpanel and the ilk, but they are very different use cases. Tableau + Redshift (or Vertica but Redshift is way less expensive) is the typical BI tech stack. When I go a client or a new job and…
Furthermore, their support is amazing. I've emailed their support in the last couple of weeks and they've called within an hour to help resolve the issue.