Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
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HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
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Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#12Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Not to burst any bubbles, but Silverlight isn't a plugin that everyone has in the way that Flash is. Silverlight seems to be at slightly less than half of all users (http://www.riastats.com/). So, that would mean anyone with Firefox, Chrome, or Silverlight could watch it and that would be pretty awesome since I think Microsoft will push for greater adoption. But right now, Silverlight isn't so well adopted. Better than the situation was before the announcement, but still not up to Flash's penetration (and well under 94% of traffic).
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#13How's the performance?
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#14Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Except that most modern mobile devices DO have a hardware h264 decoder, but aren't fast enough to run theora as a plugin -- if they even have support for plugins.
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#15Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Not to burst any bubbles, but Silverlight isn't a plugin that everyone has in the way that Flash is. Silverlight seems to be at slightly less than half of all users ( http://www.riastats.com/ ). So, that would mean anyone with Firefox, Chrome, or Silverlight could watch it and that would be pretty awesome since I think Microsoft will push for greater adoption. But right now, Silverlight isn't so well adopted. Better…
The grandparent appears to be assuming that all IE users have silverlight, when only 40% of them (about a quarter of all users) have it.
But you in turn forget that there is a similar Java plugin that does the same thing and is installed with Mac OS X by default. All combined I'd say 95% is a fair number so maybe the grandparent was aware of this option and simply didn't mention it explicitly.
Vorbis audio, which is playable in later versions of Flash, must be as close to 100% of desktops as you're ever going to get.
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#16Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Your "94%" figure does not account for users on Windows XP, which does have Silverlight pre-installed. Mozilla has said that 60% of their users are running Windows XP, so one imagines the share for Internet Explorer is likewise significant.
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#17Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Except that most modern mobile devices DO have a hardware h264 decoder, but aren't fast enough to run theora as a plugin -- if they even have support for plugins.
It's a matter of battery life, not performance. Every modern mobile device has a sufficiently powerful CPU to decode Theora in real time, but decoding with dedicated hardware (regardless of codec) uses less power.
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#18Looks like Theora wins -- this means that about 94%* of web browsers either support it natively, or can watch it via a pre-installed plugin. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
Not to burst any bubbles, but Silverlight isn't a plugin that everyone has in the way that Flash is. Silverlight seems to be at slightly less than half of all users ( http://www.riastats.com/ ). So, that would mean anyone with Firefox, Chrome, or Silverlight could watch it and that would be pretty awesome since I think Microsoft will push for greater adoption. But right now, Silverlight isn't so well adopted. Better…
Thanks for the link -- it looks like I was drastically overestimating Silverlight's market penetration.
However, the graphs on that site appear unreliable -- for example, they show Silverlight's market share dropping by 14% between January 22 and 26. Do you know if the raw data is available?
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#19How's the performance?
Far fewer features than H.264 and supposedly not easily implemented in hardware.
Re: HTML5 Theora Video Codec for Silverlight
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to burst any bubbles, but Silverlight isn't a plugin that everyone has in the way that Flash is. Silverlight seems to be at slightly less than half of all users ( http://www.riastats.com/ ). So, that would mean anyone with Firefox, Chrome, or Silverlight could watch it and that would be pretty awesome since I think Microsoft will push for greater adoption. But right now, Silverlight isn't so well adopted. Better…
The grandparent appears to be assuming that all IE users have silverlight, when only 40% of them (about a quarter of all users) have it. But you in turn forget that there is a similar Java plugin that does the same thing and is installed with Mac OS X by default. All combined I'd say 95% is a fair number so maybe the grandparent was aware of this option and simply didn't mention it explicitly. Vorbis audio, which is…
You're conflating HTML5 support and plug-in support. For instance: that Flash supports Vorbis does not mean that Flash-supporting clients can play . It just means that the site can choose to deliver to one client and to another. The same situation happens with h.264.
Which goes to say: this is a good thing for Theora, but it is not a victory over h.264. Even in the most optimistic estimate, including this kind of plugin-as-equivalent conflation, it would be a tie, and only in the single domain of playback in desktop browsers.