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Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by msie »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #76
refurb wrote: post #73

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I don't know about SV, but foreign investment is pretty dam low in Victoria, BC, which could be used as a proxy for Vancouver. 97.8% were domestic buyers.[1] It's not foreign buyers driving up the market in Vancouver, it's Canadians will to put themselves into serious debt in order to buy a house. [1] http://www.greaterfool.ca/2016/01/31/of-debt-data/

What? No, the Chinese are still heavily interested in the Vancouver market. Since when is small Victoria a proxy for big Vancouver?

Well, it's been reported that foreign buyers are invested in a lot of the more expensive properties (> $3 million) in certain regions, but a lot of Canadians are STILL buying Vancouver properties. There's been a lot of concern over Canadians getting in over their heads with mortgages. It also doesn't help that Vancouver has crappy wages.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by walker7734 »

wsh wrote: post #80
walker7734 wrote: post #39

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I would very much like to know what particular issues you are having as well? I work at Tableau and I would like to make sure that issues people are seeing are on our radar, if they aren't already.

Thanks for asking. I just installed 9.0.4, and here are a few examples: - Tableau Server runs only on Windows, so why can't it use a TLS certificate and key from the CryptoAPI certificate store, rather than requiring these to be converted to PEM format (with Unix line endings!) and saved in the file system? In an enterprise with an internal CA using Active Directory Certificate Services, these extra steps have to be…

Thanks for the input. I am going to forward these on to the server dev team and follow up with them in person. They may be aware of some of these already but it is important to us to keep track of what is causing our users the most headaches. I appreciate you taking the time and letting me know your suggestions and the issues you are having!

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by tomasien »

rockdiesel wrote: post #81
tomasien wrote: post #49

I don't know what Tableau Software is and I found it pretty amazing that when I Google it I could still not figure it out because all the results were about the stock price. I think people might be focusing too much on stock price is Googling a company's name doesn't result in seeing the company's website on the first page of results.....

I find that hard to believe unless you were searching just on Google News. Searching "tableau" in Google stills shows their website as well as a large knowledge graph on the right hand side which tells you exactly what the company is about. There's News results at the top of the page, but there's still plenty of information, including the company website, on the first page of results. http://i.imgur.com/tV89FoZ.png

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&e...

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by mattzito »

headgasket wrote: post #18
bkeroack wrote: post #14

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> Linkedin is down 38%. Tesla is down quite a bit. My guess is that some VCs were leveraged and had to liquidate positions. You're not a VC if your money is in publicly-traded firms.

Did you think that as soon as a company goes public, VCs get to sell all their stocks?

Typically VCs have to sell their shares 6-ish months after there's a liquidity event and return the proceeds to their LPs.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by 7952 »

gomox wrote: post #61
tomasien wrote: post #49

I don't know what Tableau Software is and I found it pretty amazing that when I Google it I could still not figure it out because all the results were about the stock price. I think people might be focusing too much on stock price is Googling a company's name doesn't result in seeing the company's website on the first page of results.....

Tableau is a surprisingly good desktop application for business intelligence and analytics that, IMO, grew too big for its own good. You plug it into data (spreadsheets, databases, you name it) and it makes it very simple (drag-and-drop simple) to crunch some numbers and produce interesting graphs, visualizations and analysis. Some clever stuff they had was (early-RoR-style) guessing of data semantics based on heuris…

> desktop application for business intelligence and analytics

I tried to buy the desktop app a few months ago and just got bogged down with the sales guy. They tried to sell the server products (with very high per-user pricing) when all I needed was 1 desktop licence and the free viewer.

It was difficult to work out if they were a consultancy, a service, or selling a product. I think those things are in conflict with one another and make it difficult to understand the level of commitment and risk.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by phillc73 »

gomox wrote: post #89
phillc73 wrote: post #86

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Would you consider building the visualisations yourself with something like R and Shiny? Self host the server, develop in-house, no more Tableau like problems. I was working on a project where the client wanted to use Tableau and I pushed instead for Shiny, which is the way we went. Quite happy with the decision.

That is somewhat fine if your deliverable is the dashboard. But if your deliverable is the analysis and the report, this is a lot of investment.

Investment in what respect? Developer/analyst effort, I'd probably agree.

However, one needs to do the analysis to create a worthwhile dashboard anyway and the report can be generated easily with the knitr package.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by TWAndrews »

gomox wrote: post #61
tomasien wrote: post #49

I don't know what Tableau Software is and I found it pretty amazing that when I Google it I could still not figure it out because all the results were about the stock price. I think people might be focusing too much on stock price is Googling a company's name doesn't result in seeing the company's website on the first page of results.....

Tableau is a surprisingly good desktop application for business intelligence and analytics that, IMO, grew too big for its own good. You plug it into data (spreadsheets, databases, you name it) and it makes it very simple (drag-and-drop simple) to crunch some numbers and produce interesting graphs, visualizations and analysis. Some clever stuff they had was (early-RoR-style) guessing of data semantics based on heuris…

or very little of it for a lot of money. Website design suggests the latter

In the BI market, Tableau is very much one of the low-cost, high volume players. They've done a great job getting into lots of people's hands, the question has always been whether or not they can roll the volume of cheap(ish) single user licenses into large enterprise-type deals.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by brooklyndude »

I can hack d3js. Can crunch billions of records in a flash of the eye, can wrangle most any DB (NoSQL, et al) out there, why would I need Tableau?

Answer: We want someone stable! Not some crazy hacker. Plus if we don't spend the cash, we don't have it in our budget next year.

Oh, I get it now. :-)

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by nevi-me »

phillc73 wrote: post #86
nevi-me wrote: post #79

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Nail on the head regarding either selling a lot cheap, or little at high price. They went for the latter as you mention. I manage software licenses at my employer, and have been put off the price of Tableau, and the inflexibility they have. We're a consulting house, and mostly use Qlik. We started using Tableau last year. The problem for us is that as a consulting house, our staff turnover rate is high (as expected I…

Would you consider building the visualisations yourself with something like R and Shiny? Self host the server, develop in-house, no more Tableau like problems. I was working on a project where the client wanted to use Tableau and I pushed instead for Shiny, which is the way we went. Quite happy with the decision.

It mostly depends on client needs. We had one project where I was thinking of going d3.js and wrap it around an Electron app. Our investment in R is still not at the level I'd want, we're mostly a SAS house ...

Most of our clients are tier 1, so in some instances they already have heavy investment in Qlik, but some are willing to shell out cash for Tableau where it makes sense. I've seen senior management in clients complain about the price though at times.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by r00fus »

mcgannon2007 wrote: post #77
PaulHoule wrote: post #72

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It's a pretty good product but everybody and his brother sells analytics and visualization tools, most of the companies that have been around a while sell a few different tools since they've grown by acquisition. Tableau is more differentiated than it looks, but it doesn't look very differentiated. If Microsoft ever gets around to making many of the "smart" features in Excel actually work (i.e. csv import and automat…

Microsoft now has PowerBI in its Office suite that is pretty powerful. Its a Tableau competitor that I believe is a big reason that their stock is falling. It integrates with Excel, Access, etc. and a ton of different other non-Microsoft services.

Which level of office suite do you need to get this tool?
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