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Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by serge2k »

jimbokun wrote: post #272
serge2k wrote: post #212

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> Soccer, the action flows pretty constantly Yeah, but it's the same level of action in a single NFL play spread over an entire match.

OK, a lot of these criticisms are fair enough, but this one seems objectively false to me. There are constant one on one matchups of a dribbler trying to beat an attacker, or clever link up passes, or long balls contested by attackers and defenders, or, yes, shots on goal. A fair number of NFL plays are just running up the middle for 1 or 2 yards gain. So I really fail to see your point.

My point is soccer is so boring. so very, very boring. Fun to play, terrible to watch.

Football is boring too really.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by patmcguire »

dionidium wrote: post #235
patmcguire wrote: post #119

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From St. Louis as well. It was weird when the Rams left. There wasn't much of an attitude of how great of fans St. Louis has and what a betrayal it is. It was more resignation. "Well, we're St. Louis, what did we expect?"

Also from St. Louis. I don't agree with this. r/stlouis wouldn't shut up about it, for example, and the opinions ranged all across the board.

Oh man, that is a rabbit hole of rage. I've been away too long.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by jacalata »

samstave wrote: post #278
jacalata wrote: post #228

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I have no idea what you are talking about and downvoted you for the drive-by stupidity, not because I (necessarily) disagree with you.

Context: some time ago on reddit there was a post about the most popular cities that use reddit. One of the cities was the one where Eglin Air Force Base is in Florida. It is known that the cyber-ops team is based from there. There was a lot of astro-turfing going on, and in one of the wikileaks(?) post that came out - it was revealed that one of the founders of reddit was attempting to sell his services to the USG a…

Ok...now what's GS/why did you post it here?

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by kelnos »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #275
derekp7 wrote: post #97

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That's why I hear some people say that Wrigley Field is Chicago's largest bar, and it happens to have a game field in the middle of it.

They must have reasonable prices? Here on the west coast its probably now $15 per shitty light corporate American beer. It was $13 last time I went about 4 years ago. So, I couldn't imagine going just to have a few beers, in fact more likely to abstain on principle.

Depends on where, I guess. AT&T Park (SF Giants) serves decent beer (Guinness, among other things) for either $11 or $12 (as of last fall). Still highway robbery, but better than $15 for piss water.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by samstave »

jacalata wrote: post #283
samstave wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context: some time ago on reddit there was a post about the most popular cities that use reddit. One of the cities was the one where Eglin Air Force Base is in Florida. It is known that the cyber-ops team is based from there. There was a lot of astro-turfing going on, and in one of the wikileaks(?) post that came out - it was revealed that one of the founders of reddit was attempting to sell his services to the USG a…

Ok...now what's GS/why did you post it here?

If you're not familiar with GS in this context, I'm not interested in helping you in any way.

Please go get worldly.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by jacalata »

samstave wrote: post #285
jacalata wrote: post #283

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Ok...now what's GS/why did you post it here?

If you're not familiar with GS in this context, I'm not interested in helping you in any way. Please go get worldly.

In the context of football?

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by philwelch »

valleyer wrote: post #259
theoracle101 wrote: post #226

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This was literally blasphemy in the UK, so not sure what you're point is?

Fans in the U.S. don't take too kindly to it either. See fan reactions to relocations of the Baltimore Colts, Cleveland Browns, St. Louis Rams, etc.

Seattle Supersonics...

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by twic »

MagnumOpus wrote: post #262
jaggederest wrote: post #249

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Then you'll have bonobos showing up and claiming their percentage.

Well if they do claim it, who are we to deny them?

Hmm. Those guys can be pretty unruly when they're in crowds.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by twic »

stplsd wrote: post #35

I am from Europe and this looks almost surreal for me. It is unheard of here that team simply packs players and go to other city. Sport culture and sport business so different in USA.

It used to happen more. The most famous example is probably Arsenal - the Royal Navy dockyard they're named after certainly isn't anywhere in Highbury! On a smaller scale, Leyton Orient were once Clapton Orient.

And yes, both of those examples are of clubs moving from one place in London to another. But if you live in Woolwich, your club might as well move to the moon as Highbury.

Re: Why a city should not build a stadium for an NFL team

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Post by theoracle101 »

valleyer wrote: post #259
theoracle101 wrote: post #226

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This was literally blasphemy in the UK, so not sure what you're point is?

Fans in the U.S. don't take too kindly to it either. See fan reactions to relocations of the Baltimore Colts, Cleveland Browns, St. Louis Rams, etc.

How can you compare the top tier relocation to the third tier?
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