Good, it outgrew its usefulness (making Git popular). Now that there are better priced / open-source alternatives GitHub is on a course to irrelevancy.
GitHub is apparently in crisis again
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Enterprise sales people can make a habit of selling things that the product can't currently do, and then forcing engineering to make it a reality on a compressed timeline because "this is a deal we can't afford to lose." A million times this. I currently work at an enterprise software firm, and this is exactly what happens with each new client. In addition to the compressed timelines and ridiculous feature requests…
3.) The ball of spaghetti rolls downhill, agglobulating ALL THE FEATURES , along with forty-seven hundred switches and configuration options controlling them, resulting in a combinatorial explosion of possible system states and code paths, and you end up with something that sends email, has a social feed, group chat rooms, a home-brew scripting language, some half-baked custom charting and reporting, theming and cust…
I'm impressed, it's almost an exact description of the product in my company, only thing we don't have (yet) is group chat rooms. And yes it's pretty horrible experience developer wise.
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
For my team's (~20 people) uses, Github (and the tools we and others develop ontop of it) meets our needs amazingly well and literally would be 100% worth the price at 10X the cost. I don't think the fact that others have built tools on top of github means that github is lacking features, in the same way that the existence of github doesn't mean that git is lacking features. On the other hand, seemingly ignoring your…
It's funny you mention that, because I'm on a team of 7 who are really struggling with GitHub now. There are so many things that we know don't work, or could be better (which I have reported). That said, still worth the money.
Can you give some examples?
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
#144I've been on GitHub since the earliest days, and I've definitely noticed that there's something going on -- or the lack of anything going on more like it. When was the last time a big feature that people are actually clamoring for was added to GitHub (and let's not pretend LFS fits that description)? Meanwhile you have the maintainers of the most popular projects publicly begging for changes they've been waiting year…
Maybe they are completely unrelated, but when ever I hear about GitHub being in trouble, I first think back to meritocracy being divisive issue. Of course, removing a rug shouldn't have any direct impact, but the top level management mentality that will do something like that may not be the best type of management for being innovative or getting things done. Getting things done is divisive in the same way that meritocracy is divisive.
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does look a little strange that there are entries actually missing though - that's quite different to being buried.
Glassdoor removes negative reviews if you advertise with them. Also if you know the right people who work there (source: my current bosses friend from college works there, and he was bragging to me about how he got them to pull all our negative reviews. One of which I wrote).
>Glassdoor removes negative reviews if you ~~advertise with~~ bribe them.
Six of one, half a dozen of another.
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
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I don't want to pooh-pooh anyone's hard work--please don't misunderstand me--but I am legitimately curious: why put so much effort into building a house of cards upon a foundation of shifting sand? Your project is completely dependent on GitHub's reliability, integrity, and goodwill. It could implement its own version of your enhancements and render yours obsolete. Arguably, it should do that, because what's the poin…
You have a valid point, but what isn't obvious is my technology isn't really dependent on GitHub. The only thing that can cripple me is Git becoming less vogue. There are two parts to my technology: - There is the front end which is 100% JavaScript and this is important since it allows me to build on top of existing web solutions like GitHub - There is the indexing engine which was insanely hard to develop and is wha…
Nice one! Looks very slick. I'm a dev attached to Bitbucket, I'm curious if you've seen the Bitbucket Connect framework:
https://developer.atlassian.com/bitbucket/guides/getting-sta...
The browser extension is nifty, but Connect provides a proper API for embedding custom views in the Bitbucket UI if you want something a bit more robust (i.e. it will still work even if we decide to change the DOM at some point in the future).
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
#147Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
#148Why would someone (specifically a large enterprise) outsource source control? Running a local svn or git server is fairly trivial.
Watering plants and cooking food is also fairly trivial, perhaps our employees should do that too!
I don't work at a startup.
Administrative assistants make coffee for the whole company still, and most of us bring in our own lunch and warm up in the lunch room (those that don't, either go get lunch, or don't eat it) - if you have plants at your desk, you do end up watering them yourself.
Yes, we do have contractors who clean the building for us, and a travel agent (as well as administrative assistants) to help us book travel.
If you're an technology oriented company, it was hard for me to fathom why running your own source control is too hard (we do, svn) - I hadn't considered the additional value-add from the github provided tooling.
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#149GitHub has to have revenue to continue to operate. I'd rather GitHub go down the road of enterprise and other paid contracts, rather than going down the road of becoming SourceForge and all the ickiness that that entailed.
I wish they would be happy to service accounts like mine at $100/month. I prune all the time to stay on my grandfathered plan and not get bumped to $300/month. That said, we are moving most of our private repos which do not require outside collaborators to our self-hosted gitlab. Bonus -- gitlab comes with CI! -- another product I can skip paying XXX/month for. Lest you think we free ride, we've made substantial cont…
Thanks for contributing to GitLab. Glad to hear you like CI
Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again
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Really? Either way you lose your job, but one way you built a great product that couldn't get noticed, while the other way you are considered to have failed at building the product.
A product that no ones wants is not a great product. Great software != great product.
You seem to be tying marketing into the definition of a product, as if a product cannot be great unless it's well-known. This makes no sense. A product can be great and still be obscure relative to competitors, even inferior ones. cf. Windows vs. Linux, IE vs. Firefox during the browser wars, etc.
It's the same old story: OS/2 was superior to DOS, Netscape was better than IE, Dreamcast was amazing, Amiga was ahead of its time, etc.
It's not just software. Shakespeare wasn't a popular playwright in his time, but now he's considered an icon. Were his plays therefore not great because, at the time they were written, no one wanted them?
Many good things are not popular or well-known. They are no less good.