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Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#101

Post by alphapapa »

sdesol wrote: post #69
forgotpwtomain wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GitHub raised $250 million last year and, as you mentioned, there's nothing externally visible to show for it I completely agree, I've never been able to take github seriously as a GUI -- (e.g. there is still no way to search commits). > All this gets back to a bigger trend we see these days: closed platforms are like governments (google, apple, github, twitter). I don't think it's the same to include Github into t…

> there is still no way to search commits Just an FYI. I've implemented commits search among other things for GitHub. You can learn more about it here: http://gitsense.github.io/ Note the latest GitSense version doesn't include branch level code searching. I'm still testing this out, and I'll be releasing another GitSense update very soon, which also includes support for BitBucket. And sometime next week, I'm going t…

I don't want to pooh-pooh anyone's hard work--please don't misunderstand me--but I am legitimately curious: why put so much effort into building a house of cards upon a foundation of shifting sand? Your project is completely dependent on GitHub's reliability, integrity, and goodwill. It could implement its own version of your enhancements and render yours obsolete. Arguably, it should do that, because what's the point of relegating useful enhancements to third-party products?

So doesn't that mean that your project is living on borrowed time? Why not build upon an open platform instead, one that you can control, one that can't be ripped out from under you?

Again, I don't mean this as criticism, I'm just very curious, because I don't understand.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#102

Post by reustle »

GreaterFool wrote: post #83

I love GitHub but IMHO GitHub could use a bit of a shake up. * Code browsing is terrible and without `octotree` I don't know what I would do. * Organization view is a joke; once you have 50 repos, good luck finding anything there. * There is no way of managing anything on higher level, only per repo. I can live with that but there are people who want to track issues across the projects. And then one ends up with JIRA…

> Code search is also a joke or even an insult

Oh give me a break and get over yourself. An insult? Are you serious?

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#103

Post by alphapapa »

kasey_junk wrote: post #84
baus wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who used to sit between the engineering and sales teams from the engineering side, I actually empathize with the sales teams more than most engineers. You aren't there to write code in a vacuum. There are a lot of time it IS a deal you can't afford to lose.

I'd much rather lose my job because we couldn't meet crazy sales expectations, than lose it cause our tech was great & no one wanted it.

Really? Either way you lose your job, but one way you built a great product that couldn't get noticed, while the other way you are considered to have failed at building the product.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#104

Post by harryf »

GreaterFool wrote: post #83

I love GitHub but IMHO GitHub could use a bit of a shake up. * Code browsing is terrible and without `octotree` I don't know what I would do. * Organization view is a joke; once you have 50 repos, good luck finding anything there. * There is no way of managing anything on higher level, only per repo. I can live with that but there are people who want to track issues across the projects. And then one ends up with JIRA…

Also the mobile website sucks badly. "We'll just hide all the things except the top of this README" is not the right way to optimize for a small screen.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#105

Post by catfest »

deadHorse wrote: post #94
bjacks wrote: post #79

Has anyone noticed that the GitHub reviews on Glassdoor.com only start from May 19th, 2015? Have they been deleting bad reviews? Seems really suspicious. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/GitHub-Reviews-E671945_P3....

No, I did not notice that. And that's because glassdoor is such a whiney bitch-fest that being on that site sucks even harder than wading through the dogshit on linked in. Here's your average glassdoor post: Weh! Weh weh weh weh weh! Mih mih mih! Boo hoo! Poopy! Besides, every one knows that a good PR department will just spam the living shit out of a site like that, and bury negative posts. It's glassdoor's entire b…

It does look a little strange that there are entries actually missing though - that's quite different to being buried.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#106

Post by nosequel »

alphapapa wrote: post #101
sdesol wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there is still no way to search commits Just an FYI. I've implemented commits search among other things for GitHub. You can learn more about it here: http://gitsense.github.io/ Note the latest GitSense version doesn't include branch level code searching. I'm still testing this out, and I'll be releasing another GitSense update very soon, which also includes support for BitBucket. And sometime next week, I'm going t…

I don't want to pooh-pooh anyone's hard work--please don't misunderstand me--but I am legitimately curious: why put so much effort into building a house of cards upon a foundation of shifting sand? Your project is completely dependent on GitHub's reliability, integrity, and goodwill. It could implement its own version of your enhancements and render yours obsolete. Arguably, it should do that, because what's the poin…

The same can be said of anything built on top of the Twitter's and Facebook's of the world. Of course there is risk, but there is also some reward there too that is possible. It is a good question, but almost any API published by a corporation has risk of it being ripped out from under you.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#107

Post by sarciszewski »

bramgg wrote: post #82

>if GitHub goes down, the software development world practically stops Oh my goodness. Is this article just plain wrong, or does a large enough subset of Silicon Valley & friends actually do this that they mistook that behavior as including the other 99% of the software development world?

I use Github for a lot of things. When it goes down, I just delay pushing a commit for a little while.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#108

Post by imron »

reustle wrote: post #102
GreaterFool wrote: post #83

I love GitHub but IMHO GitHub could use a bit of a shake up. * Code browsing is terrible and without `octotree` I don't know what I would do. * Organization view is a joke; once you have 50 repos, good luck finding anything there. * There is no way of managing anything on higher level, only per repo. I can live with that but there are people who want to track issues across the projects. And then one ends up with JIRA…

> Code search is also a joke or even an insult Oh give me a break and get over yourself. An insult? Are you serious?

Not having a case sensitive search option for codesbases that are often case sensitive is definitely a special kind of cruel joke.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#109

Post by gohrt »

bjacks wrote: post #76
mmel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you use the word 'brogrammers' instead of programmers?

Because of GitHub's cultural issues towards women and sexism. I.e. the whole Julie Ann Horvath/Tom Preston-Werner/Zach Holman incident.

0 of those people are now at GitHub.

Re: GitHub is apparently in crisis again

#110

Post by gohrt »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #10

This seems to be just re-reporting an article linked to, which is behind a paywall. Anyone have it? https://www.theinformation.com/what-happened-at-github?token... The actual OP article at the top of this HN post doesn't have too much information. It is not new information (or at all unexpected) that there is some internal tension in GitHub over the companies growth. If it's a "crisis" now I'm curious, but the linked…

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