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Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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I don't think it's distributed in the IPFS fashion, right? Which makes sense, of course, since Keybase is a funded startup that needs to capture value... and, well, centralized file sharing is a more straightforward solution, too. The file system thing seems really cool and useful. I'm a fan of Keybase and will recommend this to people with whom I need to share sensitive data. It'd be interesting to hear the Keybase…

Which makes it pretty much boring from my perspective. Give me The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS) -> https://ipfs.io/

Well, what I'm hoping for from Keybase is enough user friendly tooling to encourage a lot of people to start using public-key cryptography. I don't see IPFS as really addressing any of that, even though it is extremely cool and valuable in other ways.

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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I wonder if you can tail a file, to create an ad-hoc encrypted messaging channel like: Read your messages: tail -f /keybase/private/yourname/inbox.log Send a message to someone: echo 'Hi, friend!' >> /keybase/private/yourfriend/inbox.log And I wonder how it handles filename collisions? Guess I'm going to need to play with this a bit later. :)

It works to repeatedly append to a file on one machine and `tail -f` it on another. Even an encrypted file. It just works. As for collisions, a "conflict" is handled as you would expect on file syncing services, although all conflict resolution has to be done by the clients! (Even in the unencrypted public folders, the resolution of the conflict has to be signed. And in the encrypted case, obviously the server has no…

> As for collisions, a "conflict" is handled as you would expect on file syncing services

I'm not sure what to expect though. Does it rename subsequent files by appending _##? Or does it overwrite? Or does it allow 2 files with identical filenames, like Google Drive (at least on the web) does?

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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Is this all centralized? How about something completely decentralized, but permanent: https://ipfs.io/ https://youtu.be/HUVmypx9HGI The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS)

30 second caveats: - You still have to host yourself, since you don't get free hosting. - Not encrypted, so you gotta add the encryption in yourself.

Decentralized doesn't mean you need to host it yourself.

Decentralized simply gives you the additional option to host it yourself. It also does not preclude free hosting.

Example: email.

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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I've got invites (9) for Keybase that are collecting dust if anyone wants one. Email in profile. WOW: That happened fast, I'm all out of invites now... 2 minutes after posting emails started coming in and within 3 minutes I was out. Sorry if you didn't get one...

Thanks a bunch!

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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30 second caveats: - You still have to host yourself, since you don't get free hosting. - Not encrypted, so you gotta add the encryption in yourself.

Not true. IPFS is encrypted and with pluggable PKI too! https://youtu.be/HUVmypx9HGI?t=3210 And you do not have to host yourself once your content is distributed. That is what makes it permanent!

Here's an IPFS issue about Keybase integration: https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/48

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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I've got invites (9) for Keybase that are collecting dust if anyone wants one. Email in profile. WOW: That happened fast, I'm all out of invites now... 2 minutes after posting emails started coming in and within 3 minutes I was out. Sorry if you didn't get one...

I also had six invites, my email is in my profile, and I will either edit this comment or reply to myself when I'm out.

Edit: All out. I you got one from me, please use it within 24 hours, otherwise I will reclaim it and give it to someone else.

Re: Introducing the Keybase filesystem

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's distributed in the IPFS fashion, right? Which makes sense, of course, since Keybase is a funded startup that needs to capture value... and, well, centralized file sharing is a more straightforward solution, too. The file system thing seems really cool and useful. I'm a fan of Keybase and will recommend this to people with whom I need to share sensitive data. It'd be interesting to hear the Keybase…

Which makes it pretty much boring from my perspective. Give me The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS) -> https://ipfs.io/

IPFS alone is usable for the public web, but is not usable for private sharing. You need a social identity-oriented public key infrastructure with a good UI. That is Keybase, and it's incredible that we have this now. Sure, we should implement an IPFS backend for the storage part. But let's not neglect the huge progress the Keybase folks have given us.
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