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“We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by bobajeff »

paride5745 wrote: post #3

This is a good news. Firefox OS was never a real product, but a PoC. IMHO, Mozilla should absorb the Tor project and focus on Free Web technologies, e.g. a really Free email service and a Free cloud storage service. Yes, I intentionally use capitol F for Free. How to raise money? Freemium model. A good email+cloud storage service, with the optional pay model for using a custom domain. And stop attacking the Linux dis…

I would love to use a email/webmail service from Mozilla. It would have to be ads supported but there might not be as much of a stigma against it as with suggested tiles.

Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by rms_returns »

I really hope they put some of the relieved workforce in the Thunderbird project. At the very least, this issue I've raised on their bugzilla since more than ten days ago can find some resolution!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1242257

Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by [deleted] »

vacri wrote: post #12
paride5745 wrote: post #3

This is a good news. Firefox OS was never a real product, but a PoC. IMHO, Mozilla should absorb the Tor project and focus on Free Web technologies, e.g. a really Free email service and a Free cloud storage service. Yes, I intentionally use capitol F for Free. How to raise money? Freemium model. A good email+cloud storage service, with the optional pay model for using a custom domain. And stop attacking the Linux dis…

> And stop attacking the Linux distros for the Firefox trademark (forcing them to create the Iceweasel fork) Debian's rules don't allow things that aren't free-free, and blocked the copyright-encumbered logo. Mozilla was protecting it's trademark and branding. Debian calling it iceweasel basically replaced the branding so that it could be used under Debian's rules. It turned out to be a fairly amicable result - debia…

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Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by currysausage »

BuckRogers wrote: post #11

I've always loved Mozilla products, having been a non-stop Firefox user since beta (if anyone reads this at Mozilla, never ever kill the toolbar RSS feed support!). Netscape prior, of course. I was hopeful for FirefoxOS and kept waiting for it to land in the US. I've always felt that Mozilla should rebrand Firefox as simply 'Mozilla'. The Mozilla browser. Using their dinosaur logo as the mascot. It just sounds hipper…

> I've always felt that Mozilla should rebrand Firefox as simply 'Mozilla'.

And throw away the last bit of brand recognition they have? Actually, they plan to do the opposite: call unrelated products Firefox Xyz because that's the brand that people know.

Firefox (then Firebird) should have been Mozilla Browser, and Thunderbird should have been Mozilla Mail [1]. The codenames proved to be quite catchy though.

> Normals seem to consistently mangle Firefox as 'Foxfire' among other oddities.

Meanwhile in a parallel universe, normals consistently call Mozilla Browser the Godzilla Browser.

[1] http://www.actsofvolition.com/files/mozillabranding/

Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by vocatus_gate »

Everyone could see that coming from the day it launched I think. I had zero confidence it would survive long-term. A misguided and frankly confusing product, launched in direct competition with strong, strong competitors in the form of iOS and Android. Didn't stand a chance.

Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by yebyen »

matzipan wrote: post #20
vacri wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And stop attacking the Linux distros for the Firefox trademark (forcing them to create the Iceweasel fork) Debian's rules don't allow things that aren't free-free, and blocked the copyright-encumbered logo. Mozilla was protecting it's trademark and branding. Debian calling it iceweasel basically replaced the branding so that it could be used under Debian's rules. It turned out to be a fairly amicable result - debia…

So which part of replacing the Firefox brand with Iceweasel is coherent branding?

It's not just replacing the Firefox brand, it's replacing the onus of responsibility for the package. When Debian packages your software, they insert their own patches, they do their own disparate issue tracking and release archive management, they are quite effectively a separate product. If they called it Firefox, by Debian, it would be equally damaging to the Mozilla mark (in a sense of trademark law.) If they didn't do their usual Debian thing with the patches and the release management, it would be similarly damaging to the Debian mark, so-to-speak.

(All packages get this treatment, no upstream software release vendor gets special privileges.)

Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by [deleted] »

kmfrk wrote: post #18

Some people seem gleeful about this, but Firefox OS is actually an excellent Smart TV OS, especially at a time where a lot of manufacturers feel comfortable inserting ads into people's TVs without their consent. It's obviously ridiculous that this is something we need to deal with in the first place, but I'm definitely happy that I got one of the few TVs without a scummy OS. The smartphone OS was always a vague idea…

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Re: “We will end development on Firefox OS for smartphones after the 2.6 release”

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Post by striking »

kmfrk wrote: post #18

Some people seem gleeful about this, but Firefox OS is actually an excellent Smart TV OS, especially at a time where a lot of manufacturers feel comfortable inserting ads into people's TVs without their consent. It's obviously ridiculous that this is something we need to deal with in the first place, but I'm definitely happy that I got one of the few TVs without a scummy OS. The smartphone OS was always a vague idea…

It wasn't going to function well as a TV OS though.

The UI descriptions and mockups were overly complex and seemed like something designed for a computer rather than a smart TV.

I like how open Mozilla was about it. I just disliked the actual OS, and how it was made.

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