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$250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by sschueller »

tombrossman wrote: post #151

144 comments as I type this and I can't believe no one has mentioned OVH yet. I'm a happy customer of DigitalOcean, AWS, and OVH and my default choice for a while now has been OVH. DigitalOcean beats everyone in ease of use and UX, and AWS obviously has huge potential for scaling, but OVH consistently beats DigitalOcean in VPS performance and they include DDOS protection as standard. Test for yourself, fire up simila…

Also checkout https://www.vultr.com/. They let you boot via iPXE and have many locations.

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by rickycook »

nhangen wrote: post #90
bmh_ca wrote: post #80

As a non-YC startup, I feel it quite unfair to be subsidizing other startups with our fees to DO. Which is a shame because I really appreciate and enjoy what the DO engineers have done. Nonetheless, I feel slighted, and while I had been otherwise happy with the service I am now all of a sudden incentivized to explore places more ecumenical. The feeling for me will probably pass, but I wonder how many other people hav…

Absolutely. This reads like a big fuck you to anyone that chooses to go it alone and/or doesn't want to submit themselves to the YC complex.

also (and this applies to a very large number of other services too) this excludes anyone not willing to reside in Silicon Valley for their business

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by lifesunfair »

bmh_ca wrote: post #80

As a non-YC startup, I feel it quite unfair to be subsidizing other startups with our fees to DO. Which is a shame because I really appreciate and enjoy what the DO engineers have done. Nonetheless, I feel slighted, and while I had been otherwise happy with the service I am now all of a sudden incentivized to explore places more ecumenical. The feeling for me will probably pass, but I wonder how many other people hav…

Life's unfair bro. Grow a pair.

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by martin-adams »

bmh_ca wrote: post #80

As a non-YC startup, I feel it quite unfair to be subsidizing other startups with our fees to DO. Which is a shame because I really appreciate and enjoy what the DO engineers have done. Nonetheless, I feel slighted, and while I had been otherwise happy with the service I am now all of a sudden incentivized to explore places more ecumenical. The feeling for me will probably pass, but I wonder how many other people hav…

The way I see it, I don't think I am subsidising these other startups since DO raised $83m last year [1]

Secondly, with the high attention of YC companies using the service, this may help push innovation forward for things like improved firewall and private networking, managed databases for backup and redundancy and an S3 comparable file store (thus no transfer costs).

If giving $250K to YC companies to create that demand for them to implement it, I'm all for it.

[1] http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/08/digitalocean-raises-83m-ser...

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by TheLogothete »

iolothebard wrote: post #45
curun1r wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, all of these require that you be part of some accelerator or receive VC funding before you can take advantage of the discounts. Founders trying to bootstrap a company without external funding are SOL. It strikes me that these cloud hosting companies are really interested in businesses that value growth above profits and are willing to ignore startups who try to manage costs to get to profitability more…

BizSpark requires a 5 minute write up. It's comically easy to get accepted as an individual if you can string together a few sentences. Azure is so inexpensive even without BizSpark it's kind of amazing to me. Having done startups in the 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, what people have available now is incredible IMO.

You can sign up for bizspark without a registered company?

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by brbsix »

geoka9 wrote: post #67
iolothebard wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BizSpark requires a 5 minute write up. It's comically easy to get accepted as an individual if you can string together a few sentences. Azure is so inexpensive even without BizSpark it's kind of amazing to me. Having done startups in the 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, what people have available now is incredible IMO.

"Deploy a Linux VM on Azure. Azure supports a wide range of Linux distributions including Ubuntu, CentOS, Oracle Linux, Chef and Puppet." Doesn't sound very reassuring. Do they have a good track record with non-MS stacks?

Just out of curiosity, what's not reassuring about Azure, other than the fact that they seem to think Chef and Puppet are Linux distributions?

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by kuschku »

bnchrch wrote: post #89
bmh_ca wrote: post #80

As a non-YC startup, I feel it quite unfair to be subsidizing other startups with our fees to DO. Which is a shame because I really appreciate and enjoy what the DO engineers have done. Nonetheless, I feel slighted, and while I had been otherwise happy with the service I am now all of a sudden incentivized to explore places more ecumenical. The feeling for me will probably pass, but I wonder how many other people hav…

I don't understand why you would feel slighted, this is just a business partnership (albiet a large one) and no different than when Microsoft offered $500, 000 in azure credits to YC companies. There are certain perks to joining an organization of entrepreneurs and developers, this is one of them.

Think about it this way:

You’re a startup, and a significant percentage of the money you sent is directly given to your competitors.

Which is what’s happening here. If you’re a non-YC startup using DO, you’re directly financing your competitors.

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by kuschku »

tajen wrote: post #160
tombrossman wrote: post #151

144 comments as I type this and I can't believe no one has mentioned OVH yet. I'm a happy customer of DigitalOcean, AWS, and OVH and my default choice for a while now has been OVH. DigitalOcean beats everyone in ease of use and UX, and AWS obviously has huge potential for scaling, but OVH consistently beats DigitalOcean in VPS performance and they include DDOS protection as standard. Test for yourself, fire up simila…

OVH is a French group, submitted to the new Jan 2015 law about spying. Read this for more information: https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/a1766.ovh-stand-french-surveillan...

So, they have the same situation as DO, practically (where we can be sure that the NSA has some backdoor in the systems).

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by rtpg »

kuschku wrote: post #168
tajen wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OVH is a French group, submitted to the new Jan 2015 law about spying. Read this for more information: https://www.ovh.co.uk/news/a1766.ovh-stand-french-surveillan...

So, they have the same situation as DO, practically (where we can be sure that the NSA has some backdoor in the systems).

No, it's worse than that. The French spying apparatus has way less legal boundaries because the government basically doesn't want to acknowledge the spying even happens.

At least you can argue in an American court that you have standing if you have proof the NSA is spying on you

Re: $250k of DigitalOcean credits for YC startups

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Post by davidandgoliath »

rtpg wrote: post #169
kuschku wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, they have the same situation as DO, practically (where we can be sure that the NSA has some backdoor in the systems).

No, it's worse than that. The French spying apparatus has way less legal boundaries because the government basically doesn't want to acknowledge the spying even happens. At least you can argue in an American court that you have standing if you have proof the NSA is spying on you

... and? "Way less legal boundaries" — the NSA doesn't even have a published budget. If you're on the internet, you're in their database(s) and so is your data. If you're interesting to them, your sysadmins are already exploited.

Court? Legal avenues? Legal boundaries?! Surely you jest.

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