See also http://lexiy.com secure notes, but not documents.
Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
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Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#72Nice app.
Please please add any sort of import capability
(You can look at simplenote export/import csv/json format)
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#73I'm sorry but I don't think you should call this an Evernote alternative. - No iOS client (Although the site does say coming soon) - No Firefox webclipper - No Web interface - Large / heavy application - No Drawing / Diagram support - The app is not native, it's seems it's a web frame It's interface doesn't feel very snappy, it feels like it's built with in a Javascript framework perhaps? Evernote has been around for…
Thanks for the honest feedback! The app IS a web frame, both on desktop an mobile. TBH it's pretty much the only way I can maintain it on 4 (and soon 5) different platforms efficiently. I will say this: Turtl will queue encryption/decryption in background threads so it does utilize cores while doing heavy processing. As far as how it utilizes cores in the main UI, that's really up to the underlying javascript engine,…
To your credit, the feature you're adding is far more important to me than any of the minor Evernote features the parent mentions. So don't sell yourself short.
I currently find myself stuck syncing text files using SyncThing or ownCloud or making notes in my KeePass database just to get the level of privacy I want in this.
I saw Turtl before and this makes Turtl highly appealing to me, I'll definitely be trying it out more thoroughly as it looks like mobile support has matured since last I tried it.
One thing I seem to remember having an issue with was DPI scaling support, I use 4k screens at home and at work, but everything was blurry as the apps didn't support DPI scaling - any chance this has been addressed?
Another issue I seem to remember was self-hosting, I'd most likely self-host it (though I'll definitely chip you a donation if it's all working), but I didn't see any way to configure the server used - did I miss something or has this been added now or would I need to recompile to do this?
Thanks for all your hard work.
EDIT: Just tried it again - DPI scaling on Windows is now working and there appears to be a button to change the server. Sweet. I'll be moving in to this tonight if all goes well. Thank you again. This looks like an excellent product.
I noticed your page doesn't have a donation link though and since I intend to self-host I can't send you anything, any chance you can put one up?
EDIT2: Hmm, noticing something strange here - I thought the DPI scaling was working when I saw the notes in the main screen looked very sharp, http://i.imgur.com/BfSDcca.png but when I view notes expanded it seems to lose its sharpness. See http://i.imgur.com/gpJ7zsC.png
I'm not sure what the reason for this is but I've noticed similar problems with Atom and other browser based solutions so perhaps this is unavoidable for now, in any case it's much better than it was before.
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#74I'm sorry but I don't think you should call this an Evernote alternative. - No iOS client (Although the site does say coming soon) - No Firefox webclipper - No Web interface - Large / heavy application - No Drawing / Diagram support - The app is not native, it's seems it's a web frame It's interface doesn't feel very snappy, it feels like it's built with in a Javascript framework perhaps? Evernote has been around for…
> I'm sorry but I don't think you should call this an Evernote alternative.
Everyone has to start somewhere. Being a new company, calling yourself an Evernote alternative says to me that you're either available everywhere or you will _eventually_ be available everywhere. Maybe not being available everywhere right now is too much of a down point for you but it may be fine for others.
This strikes me as an MVP and it looks like a good start. Saying Evernote took forever to hit 100MB and this app just starting out at 100MB doesn't mean anything but you're implying it'll only balloon further. When they get a revenue stream and / or funding and go full native I would suspect that size would go down considerably.
I think your points are fair but I think you're looking at this company as something far, far more than what it really is.
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#75I'm sorry but I don't think you should call this an Evernote alternative. - No iOS client (Although the site does say coming soon) - No Firefox webclipper - No Web interface - Large / heavy application - No Drawing / Diagram support - The app is not native, it's seems it's a web frame It's interface doesn't feel very snappy, it feels like it's built with in a Javascript framework perhaps? Evernote has been around for…
Thanks for the honest feedback! The app IS a web frame, both on desktop an mobile. TBH it's pretty much the only way I can maintain it on 4 (and soon 5) different platforms efficiently. I will say this: Turtl will queue encryption/decryption in background threads so it does utilize cores while doing heavy processing. As far as how it utilizes cores in the main UI, that's really up to the underlying javascript engine,…
"As far as how it utilizes cores in the main UI, that's really up to the underlying javascript engine, which most likely will be single-threaded unless instructed otherwise."
So I haven't looked at the code yet but there are many ways to make a web / JavaScript app feel snappier. There is the basic "do everything async" so you, more frequently, release the thread back to drawing / changing the DOM. Some others including:
- Making sure you got rid of the 300ms delay on mobile devices (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12238587/eliminate-300ms-...)
- Making use everything is minified, combined and loaded up front to ensure initial loading is quick
- If you're using a front end framework look into whether there exists optimizations for speedup otherwise if you profile and find a lot of time is being spent in the framework you may want to work directly with the native DOM APIs
I won't keep going but I've seen a very small, handful of html / javascript mobile apps that have felt practically native in speed so it's possible. But I certainly agree that when first starting up it's a great way to go. React Native may be another good stepping stone.
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then get rid of JS. I doubt Turtl is married to JS, it just happens to be the greatest common denominator.
A complete client side code rewrite to get rid of something is pretty much married to it.
In a start-up? Absolutely not true. This is the first version. I would suspect, as many go that route, that the "website in a frame" is replaced by native. That's typically the direction everyone goes in until they're already an expert at a specific platform and want to start on one instead of multiple.
Stuff gets rewritten all the time when it makes sense to do so. That's rarely a big enough issue that you decide you'll never do it.
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#77Apple notes (in iOS 9 and El Capitan) is also a secure, encrypted Evernote alternative: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#78This is pretty sweet but the UI does leave some to be desired. It would be awesome to have a UI similarish to onenote or a few others where on the left side you have a list of your boards, then either on the left or right side (users pick) you have a list of items in the board, then the rest of the screen is whatever the item is.
It is a really nice start and has a lot of potential but without a web version it just wont replace anything I use right now since you dont seem to support any of the BSDs and I do a lot of switching between Windows Linux and OpenBSD
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hello! I agree with mrmondo insofar as Turtl is too immature for me at to me at the moment. That said, please post updates -- I'm on the lookout for Evernote alternatives, now that its demise seems imminent. I don't use any of the fancy evernote features, so if you're interested, this is what I'd require at a minimum: - Save and sync text between OS X and Android - Button to take a picture and insert it into a note T…
Onenote is superior to Evernote. The problem is I have so many notes in Evernote I am too lazy to switch
There is still some manual work you have to do to organize them but you can use this tool to import all your notes from Evernote into OneNote: http://stefanstools.sourceforge.net/Evernote2Onenote.html
Re: Show HN: Turtl – A secure, encrypted Evernote alternative
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
maybe not well, but possibly well enough.
Not from what I've seen, after hosting a bunch of NodeJS based web-apps I can tell you it doesn't perform well on the server-side or on the desktop. It's a decent rapid prototyping language / tool - but it's taking what should (or perhaps shouldn't) be in a web browser, wrapping it up and hosting it somewhere that the designers of products often don't know much about the landscape.
This is biased hokey.
JavaScript is very fast for what it's built to do, and it keeps getting faster and used for more applications.
Another problem is many JavaScript programmers actually don't know how the language works. They think they know how to use it because the barrier to entry is so low.
It is long past time that people start recognizing JavaScript as a real language and not some browser add on.