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Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by wyclif »

Swizec wrote: post #205
bambax wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvoted for the positioning part: brand extension is almost always a mistake. In this case maybe they want to leverage the fact that almost everyone has fb, but in the mind of users fb is not associated with "work". And it's likely to hurt their main brand because it will drain more "coolness" out of it.

Or, as is already the case with a lot of us millenials: We have fb. Everyone we know has fb. Everyone we get to know is added to fb. There is no distinction between private life and work life. Fb is where we keep track of who we know. Fb is where we ask around if anyone knows of a company looking for a person. Fb is where we ask around if any person is looking for a company. Fb is where we group text. Fb is where we…

I don't know about you, but my FB is a free speech zone. I don't think that overlaps well with FB at Work in terms of usage and social patterns.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by wyclif »

Swizec wrote: post #205
bambax wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvoted for the positioning part: brand extension is almost always a mistake. In this case maybe they want to leverage the fact that almost everyone has fb, but in the mind of users fb is not associated with "work". And it's likely to hurt their main brand because it will drain more "coolness" out of it.

Or, as is already the case with a lot of us millenials: We have fb. Everyone we know has fb. Everyone we get to know is added to fb. There is no distinction between private life and work life. Fb is where we keep track of who we know. Fb is where we ask around if anyone knows of a company looking for a person. Fb is where we ask around if any person is looking for a company. Fb is where we group text. Fb is where we…

I don't know about you, but my FB is a free speech zone. I don't think that overlaps well with FB at Work in terms of usage and social patterns.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by wyclif »

djhn wrote: post #214
fs111 wrote: post #206

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You make it sound like this was some sort of heroic effort. It is (probably well paid) developers doing their job. That's it. No need for a parade.

Do UK engineers command salaries anywhere near SV level though?

No, they don't on average. This has been discussed many times on HN. Apps like this are outsourced to UK offices to keep budgets low. I routinely get offers and recruiter calls from the UK, I usually don't respond to them because I know they can't match US salaries because none of them ever have for the comparable US job.

Then there's moving to England, and the EU-related red tape. I love visiting the UK, but I'd never want to live there. And I'm a total anglophile.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by Sharlin »

The company I work for uses Google services and, as a part of that, Google+ events pretty extensively. Of course, that's exactly the feature Google decided to remove from their fancy new UI... It's still accessible via the old interface though.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by Symbiote »

djhn wrote: post #214
fs111 wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make it sound like this was some sort of heroic effort. It is (probably well paid) developers doing their job. That's it. No need for a parade.

Do UK engineers command salaries anywhere near SV level though?

Yes, for companies like Facebook and Google, or in finance (where there's also a bonus).

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by kartan »

rtpg wrote: post #146
kartan wrote: post #117

I have been trying "Facebook at Work" at work. As we already had a Facebook group for the company it made sense. This is not a tool to compete with LinkedIn. It is a tool that competes with e-mail/mail lists. Somethings now make much more sense. From a security point of view, in a company over one thousand employees, it is easier to add or remove employees as they are hired or they left the company. Also it is easier…

Does messenger also consider all this stuff? I could imagine it somewhat well in that case (well, so long as you're not pasting huge code blocks)

We don't use it. As we already use another tool for instant messaging. But looks like there is: http://techcrunch.com/2015/11/20/facebook-at-work-gets-its-o...

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by kartan »

sschueller wrote: post #169
kartan wrote: post #117

I have been trying "Facebook at Work" at work. As we already had a Facebook group for the company it made sense. This is not a tool to compete with LinkedIn. It is a tool that competes with e-mail/mail lists. Somethings now make much more sense. From a security point of view, in a company over one thousand employees, it is easier to add or remove employees as they are hired or they left the company. Also it is easier…

So now the idea is to do your sensitive internal communications via facebook?

I don't know the technical details.

But the idea is to share the same kind of things that we shared in the Facebook group. We post about trainings, company social events, game clubs, meet ups, etc. Nothing is super-secret.

As code repository, for example, we use an on-premisses GitHub Enterprise.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by riskneural »

wyclif wrote: post #241
Swizec wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, as is already the case with a lot of us millenials: We have fb. Everyone we know has fb. Everyone we get to know is added to fb. There is no distinction between private life and work life. Fb is where we keep track of who we know. Fb is where we ask around if anyone knows of a company looking for a person. Fb is where we ask around if any person is looking for a company. Fb is where we group text. Fb is where we…

I don't know about you, but my FB is a free speech zone. I don't think that overlaps well with FB at Work in terms of usage and social patterns.

I live in Germany. My facebook is most certainly not a free speech zone. Forums aren't even free speech zones.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by kartan »

tajen wrote: post #176
kartan wrote: post #117

I have been trying "Facebook at Work" at work. As we already had a Facebook group for the company it made sense. This is not a tool to compete with LinkedIn. It is a tool that competes with e-mail/mail lists. Somethings now make much more sense. From a security point of view, in a company over one thousand employees, it is easier to add or remove employees as they are hired or they left the company. Also it is easier…

Another tool which competes with emails is Atlassian Confluence, and they've nailed the "social networky" part. When discussing the idea of becoming a newsfeed-based social network for work with PMs there, they reject it: They're an intranet, you do your work there, attach documents, write reports, people get notified, they know your status, you check out their profiles, it all sounds like a social network BUT you ac…

We use Confluence, but mostly for semi-static content like documentation, contact information for teams, etc. The Confluence blogs are nice but they also have the problem of how much people reads them. Facebook is used in a more casual way. So you can post about the game club, or a company party or even re-share cat pictures. Something that usually matters only for a short time spawn or is just social in nature.

Re: Facebook at Work

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Post by douche »

chipz wrote: post #240
cbo100 wrote: post #144

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Facebook at Work

this is gold ;)

Seriously, though, go check out the Yammer UI and you'll quickly see that it is a blatant clone of Facebook. Then again, this goes for most of the competitors in that space, whether it's Salesforce Chatter, IBM's Connect, or whatever else.

source: messed around with all these things to build automated compliance and archiving products.

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