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Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by gluelogic » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:33 AM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #54

revscat wrote: post #30

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Then you should get those people in touch with the appropriate researchers. They are anomalies.

Well one of them killed himself after hallucinating people coming through the walls to get him so it would be tricky in that case. Here are some famous acid casualties http://www.wow247.co.uk/2015/07/17/bad-trip-brian-wilson-aci... I don't think there's much in the way of peer reviewed papers because no ones going to deliberately dose one group on LSD for a long term study and most recreational users take other drugs…

Some people might https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by lostgame » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:34 AM UTC

purplerabbit wrote: post #34

//my experience var self = (function LSD(self) { if (self) { return { ontology: new Ontology(), ego: null } } else return self })(former_self) edit: spacing. But seriously though, LSD can encourage/force you to re-think things you've taken for granted or never really understood. Like what time is, or how empathy works.

bloody brilliant

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by robotresearcher » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:37 AM UTC

s_q_b wrote: post #46

Steve Jobs famously commented on Gates, "I wish him the best, I really do. I just think he and Microsoft are a bit narrow. He'd be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger." Psychedelics aren't for me, personally, due to anxiety, but they are fascinating. Jobs also rated LSD as "one of the two or three most important experiences of my life." His experimentation with drugs…

> Psychedelics aren't for me, personally, due to anxiety

That's a tricky one. They can be very helpful for anxiety and obsessive disorders. Getting a whack with the chemistry stick can help you settle into a better place. But it's not ideal to go in afraid, no doubt.

The cultural terror of drugs comes and goes over time and at some moments we can actually have real discussions and research. I hope we're swinging around to that again.

I hope you find something non-chemical that helps you.

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by aeykie » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:38 AM UTC

WiseWeasel wrote: post #65

selestify wrote: post #40

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And where would one find such "suitable" environments? It's not like I can just go to a shady bar and ask around.

A couple suggestions: http://phish.com/tours/ http://www.widespreadpanic.com/tour Also, pretty much any large multi-day music festival with a campground, especially reggae. Suppliers are way less discreet at these kind of venues. You'd typically either get lucky and get whatever they say it is, or not and get something that has no effect; chances of something dangerous are low.

A few shady chemicals (NBOMes) have been circulating as LSD and they are dangerous[2], especially when you're expecting LSD but there is a way to be more sure of what you're taking[1]. 1: https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_testing3.shtml 2: https://erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome_death.shtml

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by kalzium » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:42 AM UTC

Somehow I have the feeling that psychedelics are still kind of glorified - mostly by creative people - and I can tell you all people are different. People's brains are all wired differently. Because they all went through different things in their lives. While it might help some, others might actually be left traumatized and with horrible flashbacks! Hacking your brain isn't easy!

It happened to me as a teenager. I had troubles concentrating, chalk boards would melt around teachers, trains coming in as snakes hissing, swallowing and spitting out people... at some point it stopped, but it surely wasn't always that enjoyable being "stuck" on a trip and feeling like moving through a dimension between dream and reality constantly. I mostly didn't care back then and thought it was kind of entertaining.

But I know now that I have some mental issues and LSD actually amplified the symptoms. So if you find yourself on the autistic scale and you're feeling depressed - probably better keep away from LSD... Your head is already so busy - try to do something more productive instead. ;)

Have to admit it was super interesting, but it left me with more bad effects than good in the end!

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by taurath » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:42 AM UTC

mempko wrote: post #22

I'm a bit unusual here. I have never taken any drugs. I don't drink alcohol. I am also not judgmental. There is the concept of the waking dream. That we are always in a dream which keeps being guided by our senses. Where the mind corrects the dream based on what we feel, see, and hear. Psychedelics seem to break this process. When people say they have "Profound" experiences, do they mean they finally understand this?…

Its a substance that can quickly and reliably show you just how much your reality and perceptions are shaped by chemical processes. It gives you the ability to play around with your perceptions and compare things that you thought were "objectively" real with a different perspective which you can have some control over. Put another way, it can give you a new way to look at the world, at abstract systems, at life, and purpose.

The quickness that it achieves such shifts was mind-blowing for me - I feel that with meditation it is a long slow process of developing a sense of these things, such that you might put a much more spiritual meaning behind it rather than biological.

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by questama » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:42 AM UTC

kshahkshah wrote: post #11

There is a lot going on in this article and I won't comment on all of it. I'll just address people who are perhaps curious about psychedelics. May I highly suggest that those wishing to experiment with psychedelics do it only in a place where you feel absolutely safe. That is, no risk of police, parents (if that is an issue), or neighbours to bother you. Additionally and I do think this is very important: in nature .…

  "Brain: Hey! This scary thing I'm now experiencing must be incorporated into my behavior."
  "You: Yay, I now have a phobia of something!"

A profound experience yes. Some substances are more likely to make permanent changes in your head. Be smart and read up - or take your chances and get fucked for life. Even cannabis can cause psychosis.

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by shiven » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:43 AM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #45

kshahkshah wrote: post #11

There is a lot going on in this article and I won't comment on all of it. I'll just address people who are perhaps curious about psychedelics. May I highly suggest that those wishing to experiment with psychedelics do it only in a place where you feel absolutely safe. That is, no risk of police, parents (if that is an issue), or neighbours to bother you. Additionally and I do think this is very important: in nature .…

Best advice I was ever given is that if the trip is going badly you should move your body to a different setting. It provides a nice reset should you have placed your mind somewhere that "you" do not feel comfortable with. I can't say I think that people should be recommending psychedelics because the experience is so extreme and so personal, it can be life altering. As with anything this "far out", the outcome could…

Caveat emptor, for [1] the journal does not look legit.

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by ap22213 » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:48 AM UTC

marincounty wrote: post #56

tim333 wrote: post #26

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I'd add I know several people with long term mental impairment from overuse, mostly from long term use of LSD. So while it's interesting to try, be cautious.

I know a woman who was a junior at Dartmouth. She came home for Christmas. She went to a concert with friends. She allegedly took LSD. She woke up the next day, and didn't recognize her parents. She didn't recognize her boyfriend whom came running over. She finished her degree 25 years later, and she still has trouble functioning in society. She never got back to that high functioning individual. She's still very sma…

One of the biggest issues with illicit drugs is that you never know what you're getting. There's no quality control. Even your usual dealer may not know what they have. There are people that I know who won't eat beef unless they see the farm and cow beforehand, but yet they'll gladly ingest whatever chemical is given to them.

(That said, I've personally never heard of anyone who'd been severely damaged by drugs... well, except for heroin, alcohol, and cocaine. Six of my childhood friends had died of heroin, two from alcohol, and one from cocaine. Heroin is the scourge of the working poor.)

Re: LSD: My Life-Saving Drug

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Post by artur_makly » Wed, Feb 03, 2016, 1:50 AM UTC

and for those who seek the most purist trip and healing that blows away lsd or any other kind of artificially lab created chemical.. try ayahuasca. its the ulimate nuetropic and journey you can take.

2 nights ago i had My First #Ayahuasca Experience. The Quick Post Mortem

- 10yrs of therapy.. in 1 night. - 2x more energy. - full chacras alignment - 3x more focus - 3x less stress - a more positive attitude - 100x more confidence - deep sense of gratitude - mega bursts of creative non-linear thinking - less physical pain ( stemming from long-term computer use ) - awareness & empathy ( which is hard for me being a lonely child ) - due to the pre-diet prep..i've now finally become vegan.