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Re: Reddit in 2016

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Post by forgetsusername »

fourstar wrote: post #18

Reddit is the worst. I created a sub that ended up becoming a default (/r/lifeprotips) and ended up getting banned when I tried to promote a site that I built (which was my original intention with the idea). They banned me because I had adsense on the site (funny because Imgur was/has been the golden child for reddit and they've had advertising for quite a while). I sent them a DMCA to remove the logo that I had comm…

>Reddit is the worst.

Reddit is the best.

In fact, now when I'm searching for random terms or information, I'll often include "reddit" in the query, because I'm confident that on pretty much any subject there are bona fide experts or people who have already done the research willingly sharing their knowledge on Reddit, for free. Wonderful.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#42

Post by 7952 »

fourstar wrote: post #18

Reddit is the worst. I created a sub that ended up becoming a default (/r/lifeprotips) and ended up getting banned when I tried to promote a site that I built (which was my original intention with the idea). They banned me because I had adsense on the site (funny because Imgur was/has been the golden child for reddit and they've had advertising for quite a while). I sent them a DMCA to remove the logo that I had comm…

> Reddit is run by a bunch of leeches who rely on moderators to create content and never reward them.

I think sites like Reddit emerged at a point where infrastructure for sharing was very valuable for users in its own right. It seems amazing now that the submit/upvote/downvote flow was so novel and we all lapped up the spirit of freedom. But actually the powerful feature of sites like Reddit and HN is the moderation rather than the technology. I would pay for some of the better subs, and certainly HN.

Good moderation is invaluable and it's a shame that it is hard to make money out of. I have a hunch that Google Contributor is aimed at this market as a sort of Netflix for content.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#43

Post by forgetsusername »

zaif wrote: post #19
lumberjack wrote: post #9

Reddit is a great platform to disguise sponsored content as organic. If you are really good the users won't even notice. I wonder whether they have started monetizing that yet. There is clearly a lot of it on Reddit. It's just not clear whether it is with the help of Reddit or despite of them.

I think a lot of it is the pseudo-intellectual nature of the site to make people feel like they are more knowledgeable. If it's already a pop culture topic, like Tesla or Netflix, the topics will drive interest and thereby upvotes. John Oliver did a similar episode about Native Advertising.

>If it's already a pop culture topic, like Tesla or Netflix, the topics will drive interest and thereby upvotes.

And HN is different...how exactly? There's a definite air of superiority here, but I don't find the commentary any more insightful. Besides, "reddit" isn't a single entity.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#44

Post by pboutros »

lumberjack wrote: post #9

Reddit is a great platform to disguise sponsored content as organic. If you are really good the users won't even notice. I wonder whether they have started monetizing that yet. There is clearly a lot of it on Reddit. It's just not clear whether it is with the help of Reddit or despite of them.

Sounds like /r/hailcorporate is leaking!

(but yes, totally agreed)

Re: Reddit in 2016

#45

Post by Karunamon »

Zikes wrote: post #37
Karunamon wrote: post #24

Reddit's a neat idea, but I had to abandon it. Had just hit five years of daily participation on the site, too. If we look past all the controversy and all the other reasons most people point at the site as a negative, it boils down to one thing in my mind: Base cynicism. There's cynicism when someone else reposts something. There's cynicism over imaginary internet points. There's cynicism by, from, and to the modera…

One thing that I just can't wrap my head around is the "no participation" brigading rules. The site literally exists to share content for others to discover and discuss, but if you share anything remotely meta you get accused of brigading and are banned/shadowbanned.

The site would be better off with an outright ban on meta content.

Aside from one or two outliers like DepthHub, most instances of someone on reddit linking to something on reddit are a variation on "Hey, look at this stupid thing this person did, let's all point and laugh at how stupid they are".

Re: Reddit in 2016

#46

Post by brownbat »

7952 wrote: post #42
fourstar wrote: post #18

Reddit is the worst. I created a sub that ended up becoming a default (/r/lifeprotips) and ended up getting banned when I tried to promote a site that I built (which was my original intention with the idea). They banned me because I had adsense on the site (funny because Imgur was/has been the golden child for reddit and they've had advertising for quite a while). I sent them a DMCA to remove the logo that I had comm…

> Reddit is run by a bunch of leeches who rely on moderators to create content and never reward them. I think sites like Reddit emerged at a point where infrastructure for sharing was very valuable for users in its own right. It seems amazing now that the submit/upvote/downvote flow was so novel and we all lapped up the spirit of freedom. But actually the powerful feature of sites like Reddit and HN is the moderation…

> submit/upvote/downvote flow was so novel

What was the timeline again... Slashdot emerged in 1997, it developed voting on several different criteria, you could filter for "funny" or "insightful" posts, and it had a pretty sophisticated meta-moderation system.

Digg simplified that with up- and down-votes.

Reddit borrowed digg's model.

I'm not 100% sure what the innovation of reddit was at the time, but I feel like these three just had slightly different tones to their communities. Slashdot was the geek site, Digg had more jokes and politics, reddit was sort of... deliberative? The culture was a lot different back then, a bit more like this site.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#47

Post by fweespeech »

brownbat wrote: post #46
7952 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reddit is run by a bunch of leeches who rely on moderators to create content and never reward them. I think sites like Reddit emerged at a point where infrastructure for sharing was very valuable for users in its own right. It seems amazing now that the submit/upvote/downvote flow was so novel and we all lapped up the spirit of freedom. But actually the powerful feature of sites like Reddit and HN is the moderation…

> submit/upvote/downvote flow was so novel What was the timeline again... Slashdot emerged in 1997, it developed voting on several different criteria, you could filter for "funny" or "insightful" posts, and it had a pretty sophisticated meta-moderation system. Digg simplified that with up- and down-votes. Reddit borrowed digg's model. I'm not 100% sure what the innovation of reddit was at the time, but I feel like th…

They didn't change the UX and tank their site. That was their innovation, if we are being honest.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#48

Post by JimDabell »

kbenson wrote: post #34
woah wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You tried to use their site to promote your site and they banned you? And then you threatened legal action to get them to take down an image that you yourself posted?

> And then you threatened legal action to get them to take down an image that you yourself posted? Why not? If he owned the rights to the image, it's use was contingent on his approval, absent any other agreement. The only reason it required a a legal notice is because they locked him out of the account he used that had rights to change it. This is no different than offering to let the office use your ping pong table…

> absent any other agreement

The user agreement includes perpetual, irrevocable license to reproduce content you submit to Reddit.

Re: Reddit in 2016

#49

Post by JimDabell »

kendallpark wrote: post #3

> Our new Android app is going into beta today, and our new iOS app should follow it out soon. It's amazing how long Reddit existed before rolling out a mobile app. Now I'll finally have something other than Facebook to check compulsively on my phone.

> It's amazing how long Reddit existed before rolling out a mobile app.

This isn't their first mobile application, it's their new one. The original one is six years old:

https://github.com/reddit/iReddit

Re: Reddit in 2016

#50

Post by seangrant »

forgetsusername wrote: post #41
fourstar wrote: post #18

Reddit is the worst. I created a sub that ended up becoming a default (/r/lifeprotips) and ended up getting banned when I tried to promote a site that I built (which was my original intention with the idea). They banned me because I had adsense on the site (funny because Imgur was/has been the golden child for reddit and they've had advertising for quite a while). I sent them a DMCA to remove the logo that I had comm…

> Reddit is the worst. Reddit is the best. In fact, now when I'm searching for random terms or information, I'll often include "reddit" in the query, because I'm confident that on pretty much any subject there are bona fide experts or people who have already done the research willingly sharing their knowledge on Reddit, for free. Wonderful.

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but you should be weary of the information you read on Reddit. A lot of people simply rehash untrue statements they've heard on Reddit before. I'd say this is true anywhere but Reddit seems to be exceeding prevalent.
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