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Facebook is closing Parse

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Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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This announcement just underscores the importance of having full control over your backend. Yes, it's more work, but if you're writing apps that seriously depend on backend services, it's simply too much risk to depend on anyone else. Fortunately in this case Facebook offered generous lead time to migrate off Parse.com, but they were not obligated to do so, and other providers might not be so generous in the future.…

How is this any different to depending on Amazon for your back end?

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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post #417

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A few more thoughts: 1. This effectively poisons the well for any other BaaS providers out there. If two of the biggest companies in this space (StackMob and Parse) can get acquired and shut down in less than 5 years, what does that say about the future of the smaller companies in this space? As a developer how could you possibly trust any of these companies going forward, based on this track record? 2. Syncing is no…

> This effectively poisons the well for any other BaaS providers out there. If two of the biggest companies in this space (StackMob and Parse) can get acquired and shut down in less than 5 years, what does that say about the future of the smaller companies in this space? As a developer how could you possibly trust any of these companies going forward, based on this track record? Especially given the fact that the ver…

I would argue that this precisely is the reason for that many shut downs after acquisition. They don't make their business to be sustainable, rarely profitable even.

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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Speculations on why the shutdown: Apple CloudKit is gaining momentum. Google is predicted to come out its own offering for Android based on Firebase. Facebook wants focus on its Messenger as a platform, rather than 'supporting' Apple and Google's platforms. My 2 cents.

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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A few thought : 1/ parse wasn't a core service for facebook, nor a relevant source of a revenu AND their API wasn't standard. Those points combined made it very risky for people to use it. 2/ since they open sourced their API now, and the service was a paid service, there's a very high probability that someone will very soon create a 100% compatible PAAS. 3/ firebase will be next to shutdown. Not because they suck, b…

I think you're pretty far off the mark when you say that Oculus is at risk if they don't sell enough devices. Of course, we have to go off of what Oculus and FB says, but they are working to create an ecosystem and market for VR experiences and seem to be pushing VR forward wherever they can; look at Oculus Studio and the work they're doing to create interactive movies, as well as the software deals with partners lik…

They probably have a lot of patent, and i agree that VR is not going away. I was talking about occulus as a fb branded hardware and development platform.

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

#425

While I'm sure this sucks for a lot of people, I'll be honest the shutdown seems pretty fair. One year notice, detailed migration path with accompanying migration tools, and an open source release of the product itself. I didn't use parse, but this seems like a reasonable way to do it.

I hope we will see a lot of migrating tools and blogs

We are working on this @Hasura.io. This is our blogpost in response to the Parse shutdown. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10994104

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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post #319

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[Firebase founder here] We're not going anywhere. We have strong backing here at Google and are continuing to make big investments in our platform. You'll see big things from us soon. What makes us different? Firebase is very complementary to Google's other product offerings. Cloud for one, as well as Angular, Polymer, GCM, etc.

"We're not going anywhere." I'd like another answer like. "We are thinking about providing a community version that one can deploy on its own servers, then we provide the IaaS when the customer might want to scale". If Parse had an opersource version to begin with, it would have been much much more successful and people would have been less worried about building on a third party platform. If Firebase closes tomorrow…

From a customer's perspective, Parse is not remotely related to Facebook's core products. But Firebase is part of Google Cloud Platform. So I guess as long as Google Cloud Platform is active, Firebase will be operational too.

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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This announcement just underscores the importance of having full control over your backend. Yes, it's more work, but if you're writing apps that seriously depend on backend services, it's simply too much risk to depend on anyone else. Fortunately in this case Facebook offered generous lead time to migrate off Parse.com, but they were not obligated to do so, and other providers might not be so generous in the future.…

Developers will now be skeptical about using any BaaS. It can be acquired and shut down. They have every reason to be. We built a BaaS too. It is however built around this core philosophy of developers having complete control over their app backends. Here is the post we wrote about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10994104

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few more thoughts: 1. This effectively poisons the well for any other BaaS providers out there. If two of the biggest companies in this space (StackMob and Parse) can get acquired and shut down in less than 5 years, what does that say about the future of the smaller companies in this space? As a developer how could you possibly trust any of these companies going forward, based on this track record? 2. Syncing is no…

Au contraire: it opens a wider deeper well. Parse customers are now up for grabs. Do you think they will go back to program back-ends and rent a server? I personally won't. So the supermaket chain where you usually shop at closes its stores for whatever reason. Do you go back to farming your backyard or do you find a new store? The BAAS industry is super young, only hipsters are into it. But it makes sense so it will…

That's exactly our thought (hasura.io) while we prepare for our "launch" next week. We've been studying Parse's growth and are definitely going after their market. Our core philosophy with the BaaS is however to keep it as open as possible. We wrote this up in response to Parse shutting down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10994104

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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post #195

This announcement just underscores the importance of having full control over your backend. Yes, it's more work, but if you're writing apps that seriously depend on backend services, it's simply too much risk to depend on anyone else. Fortunately in this case Facebook offered generous lead time to migrate off Parse.com, but they were not obligated to do so, and other providers might not be so generous in the future.…

"This announcement just underscores the importance of having full control over your backend" I disagree. If using something like this let's you get to market much faster, much cheaper, and find market fit faster/cheaper, then it's worth it. Depending on the need it can take millions of dollars and year(s) of work to then begin working on the actual business objectives.

Yes absolutely. Hasura.io is coming up with a BaaS which is also simultaneously trying to address the "full control over your backend" problem. We put up some of our thoughts here:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10994104

Re: Facebook is closing Parse

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[Firebase founder here] We'd love to know what limitations you've run into and how we can do better! Send me a tweet: @startupandrew

Well I love Firebase, but to put it naively, Firebase needs more advanced queries. Even more than usual because it is running 'far' from my backend, so queries from backend are expensive. For example, if there was a way to selectively bring back children of an object etc. I know there are workarounds (and I am doing those) but since Firebase is a DBaaS it needs to account for that when compared to other DBs.

Would you like to try out our alternative approach instead at Hasura.io? Parse like API on Postgres - with all SQL queries possible! We'd love to chat if you are still evaluating options @HasuraHQ. We are launching our public beta next week. Here is a short post of our take on the Parse shutdown: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10994104
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