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Re: Around the World in 33 Keyboards

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Post by reirob » Thu, Jan 28, 2016, 9:11 AM UTC

egeozcan wrote: post #66

reirob wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel with you, but there is a nice solution :-) I moved to France from Germany, I had first to unlearn the German layout (QWERTZ) and then learn the French AZERTY. But as you say it is so bad! Additionally I was travelling for work and sometimes was exposed to type on different layouts and was very frustrated because I was accustomed to AZERTY. After one week in Russia I took the decision and switched to QWERTY, co…

I think you can never get the Turkish "ı" and "İ" with any sane combination on any other keyboard than the Turkish though. I'm Turkish and have been living in Germany since more than 5 years and I still use a Turkish Q layout just for this reason (I occasionally have to write in Turkish). It also contains all the German letters under relatively sane combinations.

You can use the '.' (dot) key to modify/inverse the (single) dot above letters:

AltGr . + i => ı AltGr . + I => İ

I think this is what you were looking for and I find this combination easy to remember and other combinations seem to follow mostly the same principle (e.g. " (double quotes) modifies the double dots on the letters, which allows to make öÖäÄüÜëË, etc. The same for ~ (tilde), ` (backtick), ' (single quote).

Here the combination for the special Turkish characters:

Ç -> AltGr + % + C or AltGr , (comma) + C

ç -> AltGr + % + c or AltGr , (comma) + c

I remember this combination because the on the % key there is 5, or to say it differently % = Shift + 5, and 5 resembles a bit the symbol that goes below the C in Ç. The same is true for Şş

Ğ -> AltGr + Shift + 9 + G

ğ -> AltGr + Shift + 9 + g

I remember these because (Shift + 9 corresponds to '(', i.e. opening bracket, which truned by 90°to left is like the sign that is on top of ğ and Ğ

ı -> AltGr + . + i

İ -> AltGr + . + I

Ö -> AltGr + " + O

ö -> AltGr + " + o

Same principle for üÜ (and äÄ if you need German as well)

Ş -> AltGR + % + S

ş -> AltGr + % + s

Ü -> AltGr + " + U

ü -> AltGr + " + u

Re: Around the World in 33 Keyboards

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Post by egeozcan » Thu, Jan 28, 2016, 5:46 PM UTC

reirob wrote: post #71

egeozcan wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can never get the Turkish "ı" and "İ" with any sane combination on any other keyboard than the Turkish though. I'm Turkish and have been living in Germany since more than 5 years and I still use a Turkish Q layout just for this reason (I occasionally have to write in Turkish). It also contains all the German letters under relatively sane combinations.

You can use the '.' (dot) key to modify/inverse the (single) dot above letters: AltGr . + i => ı AltGr . + I => İ I think this is what you were looking for and I find this combination easy to remember and other combinations seem to follow mostly the same principle (e.g. " (double quotes) modifies the double dots on the letters, which allows to make öÖäÄüÜëË, etc. The same for ~ (tilde), ` (backtick), ' (single quote)…

I can't thank you enough for this. Anyway, thank you very much for the detailed information.

Re: Around the World in 33 Keyboards

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Post by reirob » Thu, Jan 28, 2016, 8:10 PM UTC

egeozcan wrote: post #72

reirob wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use the '.' (dot) key to modify/inverse the (single) dot above letters: AltGr . + i => ı AltGr . + I => İ I think this is what you were looking for and I find this combination easy to remember and other combinations seem to follow mostly the same principle (e.g. " (double quotes) modifies the double dots on the letters, which allows to make öÖäÄüÜëË, etc. The same for ~ (tilde), ` (backtick), ' (single quote)…

I can't thank you enough for this. Anyway, thank you very much for the detailed information.

You're welcome. I'm glad that it might be useful :-)

Re: Around the World in 33 Keyboards

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Post by aikah » Fri, Jan 29, 2016, 2:18 AM UTC

NetStrikeForce wrote: post #68

aikah wrote: post #20

As a french person, I use an AZERTY keyboard, it can become really tedious when programming in some languages. The ` for instance is a pain to type : Atl Gr + 7 then space (though on apple keyboards it seems to have a dedicated key, but I'm pretty sure the space is still needed)... and of course numbers need the shift key to be held ... The issue is I can't really switch to QWERTY (accents).

You might want to switch to the Spanish keyboard. It's qwerty and has easy access to accents, plus ç (and ñ that you don't need anyway :))

Now that's an interesting idea, i'll check that out thanks.