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Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by theinternetman »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #21
untog wrote: post #4

Sometimes I really worry how much I depend on software written by Apple. On the weirder end of Safari bugs, mine can only open t.co (Twitter short link) URLs about 1/4 of the time. The rest of the time it sits there, eventually telling me the server is not responding. Apparently it is a bug at a "lower level than Webkit". The mind boggles as to what it actually is, and it's been like this for months . http://www.thev…

This was driving me mad for ages. I was blaming Twitter and my connection until I finally discovered it was Safari. This was the last straw for me. Having Safari on my desktop synced with my iPhone is so useful. Safari credit card and password storage works better than Chromes (imo) and I find it superior in almost every other way. But with todays issue, the t.co issue, and another issue where my entire Mac would ran…

What's so special about t.co? No other sites are having a problem. Sounds like Twitters problem.

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by sawwit »

vlunkr wrote: post #18
autoreleasepool wrote: post #6

I've tried to like Safari. It's certainly snappier than the alternatives. It's fast and seems light. I'll go as far as to say I want to like Safari. As a heavy iPhone and Mac user, going all in on Safari would buy me a lot. In a similar vein, I want to like Firefox - even more so than Safari. An open source web browser by a non-profit? Sign me up. That's an excellent concept to rally behind. But... I can't ditch Chro…

This is me exactly. I can't stand the UI in FF. It seems to change too much and it's ugly. There are probably plugins to help with that, but I haven't invested the time to look into it. It's also hard to kick the Chrome dev tools.

How is FF ugly? I don't find the UI very different from Chrome and Safari.

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by overcast »

autoreleasepool wrote: post #6

I've tried to like Safari. It's certainly snappier than the alternatives. It's fast and seems light. I'll go as far as to say I want to like Safari. As a heavy iPhone and Mac user, going all in on Safari would buy me a lot. In a similar vein, I want to like Firefox - even more so than Safari. An open source web browser by a non-profit? Sign me up. That's an excellent concept to rally behind. But... I can't ditch Chro…

I came in here, to share my experience between Safari and Chrome, and it looks like you've iterated exactly the same sentiment. After El Capitan came out, and the changes to Safari, I REALLY gave it a shot. A sleek interface, and certainly fast, but it chews through RAM at an insane rate. There is no rhyme or reason to it, I can have a fresh window open, restore previous session of ten tabs, and after a few hours, each tab starts consuming 5GB+ of RAM until everything is exhausted. Chrome(Canary) on the other hand, twice as many tabs open, and it never runs away with RAM usage. It still uses a hundred megs per tab, but none of them go crazy. I need to have every browser under the sun installed for testing, but Chrome is the only thing I can keep opening without killing my Mac Pro that has 28GB of RAM.

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by akerro »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #28
autoreleasepool wrote: post #6

I've tried to like Safari. It's certainly snappier than the alternatives. It's fast and seems light. I'll go as far as to say I want to like Safari. As a heavy iPhone and Mac user, going all in on Safari would buy me a lot. In a similar vein, I want to like Firefox - even more so than Safari. An open source web browser by a non-profit? Sign me up. That's an excellent concept to rally behind. But... I can't ditch Chro…

>the most configurable, has the best extension ecosystem. that's why I haven't left chrome. I HATE some of the stuff they (google) do, but I can make this my browser and I like the overall appearance

Can you force it not to download binary blobs that turn on your microphone?

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Post by meburns »

autoreleasepool wrote: post #6

I've tried to like Safari. It's certainly snappier than the alternatives. It's fast and seems light. I'll go as far as to say I want to like Safari. As a heavy iPhone and Mac user, going all in on Safari would buy me a lot. In a similar vein, I want to like Firefox - even more so than Safari. An open source web browser by a non-profit? Sign me up. That's an excellent concept to rally behind. But... I can't ditch Chro…

This is exactly the same experience I have had. I gave Safari a few months, added extensions, etc. I just found myself banging my head against the wall over certain things that Chrome had natively that Safari choose not to have.

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by untog »

theinternetman wrote: post #31
k-mcgrady wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was driving me mad for ages. I was blaming Twitter and my connection until I finally discovered it was Safari. This was the last straw for me. Having Safari on my desktop synced with my iPhone is so useful. Safari credit card and password storage works better than Chromes (imo) and I find it superior in almost every other way. But with todays issue, the t.co issue, and another issue where my entire Mac would ran…

What's so special about t.co? No other sites are having a problem. Sounds like Twitters problem.

If you read the article you'll see an Apple engineer confirm it is a problem with Apple's code.

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by forgottenpass »

autoreleasepool wrote: post #6

I've tried to like Safari. It's certainly snappier than the alternatives. It's fast and seems light. I'll go as far as to say I want to like Safari. As a heavy iPhone and Mac user, going all in on Safari would buy me a lot. In a similar vein, I want to like Firefox - even more so than Safari. An open source web browser by a non-profit? Sign me up. That's an excellent concept to rally behind. But... I can't ditch Chro…

I think it's the tabs. For whatever reason, chrome is simply the best browser for those 50 tab research sessions.

You might like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Apple Safari users suffer crashes

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Post by cptskippy »

sawwit wrote: post #32
vlunkr wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is me exactly. I can't stand the UI in FF. It seems to change too much and it's ugly. There are probably plugins to help with that, but I haven't invested the time to look into it. It's also hard to kick the Chrome dev tools.

How is FF ugly? I don't find the UI very different from Chrome and Safari.

I don't get how he thinks it's ugly or different.

Not only is it very similar but, unlike Chrome or Safari, every aspect of it is customizable so you can make it look however you want. Out of the box you can rearrange the the UI elements to match Chrome or Safari.

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