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Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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Does that not mean that you can then only use the common aspects from the various cloud providers, and miss out on the additional features each supports?

The general rule of thumb for building big things that work long term is build anything in-house that you can't source from multiple vendors.

* Or get source code for the big thing, so at least if it breaks in 5 years you can fix it if you need to.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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Does that not mean that you can then only use the common aspects from the various cloud providers, and miss out on the additional features each supports?

The general rule of thumb for building big things that work long term is build anything in-house that you can't source from multiple vendors.

This 1000x

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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You just gotta love IT departments at non-tech corporations. Shudder

So you mean the IT departments that represent the majority of all businesses in the entire world? Yes, they work their butts off.

Not only that, this is coming out of "Walmart Labs @ Walmart Global eCommerce". Sounds like a tech company.... This is more just big company PR people than tech or non-tech.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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I was just about to post the same thing. So much business-speak, no idea what in the world this could be.

You might want to brush up on business speak, that's the real reason for writing the vast majority of all software ever written or that will be written in this century.

The point is that it is possible to be able to pitch a technology to management without being overly opaque and sounding like a bag of buzzwords.

Also, keep in mind that different industries are accustomed to different sets of terminology. Engineers at tech companies don't usually use terms such as "product delivery" and "Continuous Application Lifecycle Management." To us, "multi-cloud orchestrator" is a much clearer way to describe this technology.

No need to be so condescending.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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You just gotta love IT departments at non-tech corporations. Shudder

So you mean the IT departments that represent the majority of all businesses in the entire world? Yes, they work their butts off.

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Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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Thank you. Now that you've summarized this, this sounds like a great idea, a good way to kill lock-in on cloud platforms. I don't know why they couldn't write something so simple and concise...

...kill lock-in, as long as everyone in the whole world acts like an OpenStack interface. Not interested.

So their is no standard on how to present your cloud to the world ATM. I think you would be happy that widely used open-source project like OpenStacks interface is being adopted.

I'm sure if you want OneOps to support a non-OpenStack interface that should be possible too, they already support Microsoft Azure for example.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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"Accelerating product delivery in the Digital Economy through Continuous Application Lifecycle Management of Cloud-based Workload, backed by @WalmartLabs" I think you could work on that elevator pitch a little - it seems like it's been workshopped by a committee, and doesn't really tell me anything.

I was just about to post the same thing. So much business-speak, no idea what in the world this could be.

Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/spyJ5yxTfas

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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Thank you. Now that you've summarized this, this sounds like a great idea, a good way to kill lock-in on cloud platforms. I don't know why they couldn't write something so simple and concise...

Does that not mean that you can then only use the common aspects from the various cloud providers, and miss out on the additional features each supports?

That's the difference between startup and big environment. Bells and whistles are nice, but handcuff you.

If you need a 10 year business plan for a service, you need to limit your choices. I have systems with 40 year history that need to retain data for 30 year into the future. Different thinking.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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The chef code that deploys all the apps is pretty old skool, copy pasta'd from opensource cookbooks in alot of places, will never pass food critic or rubocop, and has no tests. I wouldn't really want to run that code on anything.

Because opensource cookbooks are unreliable or people should only rely on your cookbooks? Or old skool isn't new skool so it should be wholly disregarded?

open source or not, they should follow the best practices, these don't. The fact is, really old open source cookbooks have been copy pasted, with the maintainers names changed, and hacked on top of. For example, the MySQL cookbook. This is against the apache2 licence that they were originally distributed under.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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"Accelerating product delivery in the Digital Economy through Continuous Application Lifecycle Management of Cloud-based Workload, backed by @WalmartLabs" I think you could work on that elevator pitch a little - it seems like it's been workshopped by a committee, and doesn't really tell me anything.

You just gotta love IT departments at non-tech corporations. Shudder

Here we see a live example of ignorance being bliss. Walmart Labs is as much as an 'IT corporation' as vineyards are football fields.
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