Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by philk10 » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:06 PM UTC

Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development
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Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by tuananh » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:18 PM UTC

tl;dr: (everybody already know this) webstorm is better at debugging

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by pmontra » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:23 PM UTC

Partially offtopic. The author is doing

> "complex edits [in Emacs] using Vim macros"

This is a big surprise. I left vi for emacs in the early '90s when vi's macros were crippled, to say the least. I'm using vim for quick edits, mainly on servers or configuration files (sudo vi /etc/something). Did vim macros really become better than Emacs' ones?

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by diezge » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:26 PM UTC

tuananh wrote: post #2

tl;dr: (everybody already know this) webstorm is better at debugging

Exactly. I'd rather see how WebStorm compares to Visual Studio Code which has pretty great debugging for Node dev.

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by DigitalJack » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:30 PM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #3

Partially offtopic. The author is doing > "complex edits [in Emacs] using Vim macros" This is a big surprise. I left vi for emacs in the early '90s when vi's macros were crippled, to say the least. I'm using vim for quick edits, mainly on servers or configuration files (sudo vi /etc/something). Did vim macros really become better than Emacs' ones?

Vim's macros are super easy to record and play back, repeatedly. It's the one thing I'll still use evil mode for.

Emacs isn't that much worse, vim is just faster and easier.

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by chowes » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:30 PM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #3

Partially offtopic. The author is doing > "complex edits [in Emacs] using Vim macros" This is a big surprise. I left vi for emacs in the early '90s when vi's macros were crippled, to say the least. I'm using vim for quick edits, mainly on servers or configuration files (sudo vi /etc/something). Did vim macros really become better than Emacs' ones?

not sure about "better", but i'm curious what was crippling back then? using them nowadays is a breeze and you get practically full functionality at your disposal.

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by aikah » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:32 PM UTC

I personally moved to visual studio code (from WebStorm ) which has a good debugger for Nodejs and a few features that are really handy ( support for .d.ts definitions for node modules ... ). I usually don't use MS products but they did an impressive job with that IDE, no question.

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by catern » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:40 PM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #3

Partially offtopic. The author is doing > "complex edits [in Emacs] using Vim macros" This is a big surprise. I left vi for emacs in the early '90s when vi's macros were crippled, to say the least. I'm using vim for quick edits, mainly on servers or configuration files (sudo vi /etc/something). Did vim macros really become better than Emacs' ones?

The author is actually just using Emacs macros with vim-style keybindings. Emacs macros are still probably more powerful.

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by Illniyar » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:41 PM UTC

tuananh wrote: post #2

tl;dr: (everybody already know this) webstorm is better at debugging

Actually for me, this is much more important: "Symbol and definition lookup is another great feature of WebStorm. While Emacs can find symbols and definitions in a single file via Tern, WebStorm can actually inspect your whole project and find a definition, or at least give you a very pruned list of candidates to choose from."

not being able to Ctrl-click a variable or function really reduces my efficency (especially with code that I did not write entirely on my own).

Re: Emacs vs. WebStorm for Node.js Development

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Post by emidln » Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 2:46 PM UTC

catern wrote: post #8

pmontra wrote: post #3

Partially offtopic. The author is doing > "complex edits [in Emacs] using Vim macros" This is a big surprise. I left vi for emacs in the early '90s when vi's macros were crippled, to say the least. I'm using vim for quick edits, mainly on servers or configuration files (sudo vi /etc/something). Did vim macros really become better than Emacs' ones?

The author is actually just using Emacs macros with vim-style keybindings. Emacs macros are still probably more powerful.

Vim's macros are certainly more quickly composable. I still use them in emacs via evil using execute-kbd-macro:

   ;; select the current graph
   (execute-kbd-macro (kbd "ma{y}`a"))