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Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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Isaac Asimov: "The only people I ever met whose intellects surpassed my own were Carl Sagan and Marvin Minsky."

Pretty egotistical to frame it that way of Asimov.

There are a bunch of adjectives I would use to describe Asimov, and egotistical is so far down the list I'd get bored listing them before I got to it. It seems likely to be a realistic and honest self-assessment, on the basis of the breadth, depth, and foresight, of Asimov's written work. If you're Usain Bolt, is it egotistical to say, "I'm probably the fastest runner in the world?" Why is intellect so much different? Sure, there's no precise measure of intelligence...but, someone with great intellectual achievement gets to, at the very least, lay claim to great intellect.

It would be easily dismissed if said by someone much less accomplished. In this case, I just take it as a frank statement of belief.

Regardless, I think it's safe to say Minsky was a great intellect, of a caliber not often seen.

Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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We just lost a giant. Hard to imagine someone more black bar worthy for Hacker News, hope we have one up soon.

I hope not. The black bar has become a meaningless exercise in political posturing. Edit: allow me to clarify - just having to choose whether or not someone is "black bar worthy" is distasteful. Ian Murdock didn't get a black bar that I can recall, and I don't remember seeing one since then, even though other people relevant to the community have died. Are we to expect someone to change the color of the bar every tim…

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a list of people who HN has enabled the black bar for?

Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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One of my earliest exposures to CS was his Computation: Finite and Infinite Machines. "Communication with Alien Intelligence" is another favorite of mine. The idea of enumerating all possible Turing Machines and looking for ones that do something meaningful is brilliant.

Is the set of all turing machines finite?

Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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Admin, can we get a black bar for this? Marvin Minsky is widely referred to as the "Founding Father of AI."

Did we even get a black bar when Steve Jobs died?

Seems like the admins have pretty much done away with the black bar thing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine who deserves a black bar if Minsky doesn't, unless a grey bar would be more appropriate (Minsky was signed up for cryonics with Alcor, so he's not dead dead.)

> I can't imagine who deserves a black bar if Minsky doesn't Have you chance to elaborate why this guy deserved this? Did he build first neural network, lisp machine, ALICE chatbot, break image net. I always considered him as some kind of celebrity from science, while other guys, which names nobody remembers, actually pushed AI movement by doing real things, while working on Google Brain, Watson, cyc, trying to catch…

Ignorance is not an excuse

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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. "What are you doing?", asked Minsky. "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe", Sussman replied. "Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky. "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play", Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. "Why do you close your eyes?" Sussman asked his teacher…

It is now several decades later. Do TensorFlow/CNN builders use random initial configurations, or custom designed stuctures?

NN weights need to start random because otherwise two weights with exactly the same value can get "stuck" and be unable to differentiate. Backpropagation relies on starting random patterns that kind of match so that it can fine tune them.

But the weights are often initialized to be really close to zero.

Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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Admin, can we get a black bar for this? Marvin Minsky is widely referred to as the "Founding Father of AI."

You can change the topcolor in the settings to black to get your own personal black bar.

You won't see the top menu links.

Re: Marvin Minsky dies at 88

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Isaac Asimov: "The only people I ever met whose intellects surpassed my own were Carl Sagan and Marvin Minsky."

Pretty egotistical to frame it that way of Asimov.

Being a writer doesn't say anything about his intellect, you didn't know the man so he could likely be being completely honest.
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