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Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by eik3_de »

_query wrote: post #2

Hey all, I'm an eighteen years old software engineer from germany (learn more about me here: http://www.mpscholten.de/about/ ). Project Log is my first try on android apps. It's a simple material designed work time tracker. I've built it because I was unhappy with all the existing apps I've tried out. Happy to receive some feedback :)

Have you tried Harvest? https://www.getharvest.com/android I'd be curious to hear what you didn't like about it!

(disclosure: I work there, however not on the product side)

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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eik3_de wrote: post #11
_query wrote: post #2

Hey all, I'm an eighteen years old software engineer from germany (learn more about me here: http://www.mpscholten.de/about/ ). Project Log is my first try on android apps. It's a simple material designed work time tracker. I've built it because I was unhappy with all the existing apps I've tried out. Happy to receive some feedback :)

Have you tried Harvest? https://www.getharvest.com/android I'd be curious to hear what you didn't like about it! (disclosure: I work there, however not on the product side)

Haven't tried harvest before. It looks like harvest is more for teams, while my app is more directed to single individuals.

One has to create an account before one can use harvest, which is a huge turn-off for me because I don't want to create an account before I even know whether your app is the app I'm looking for. I would probably have skipped your application while searching for a solution because of this.

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by mgkimsal »

_query wrote: post #7
daveblt wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This app is incompatible with all of your devices." is what I get, but I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 on Android 4.4.2 KitKat. Not sure what the requirements are, but I would expect such a simple app to not have such steep requirements.

The app currently requires android 5.0+ because of material design stuff. But technically I could make it work on android 4. Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus).

> Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus).

This may sound ageist, but it may be because you're just 18 and haven't lived enough yet. Most people don't upgrade android. Most people can't upgrade Android.

Per http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html about 33% of devices are Android 5.0 or higher. More than 50% of android users are using 4.1-4.3, and that probably won't shift massively in the near future.

I too have a nexus, but AFAICT, I'll never get anything beyond 4.4 (unsure right now, haven't even turned it on in a while).

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by lucb1e »

_query wrote: post #7
daveblt wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This app is incompatible with all of your devices." is what I get, but I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 on Android 4.4.2 KitKat. Not sure what the requirements are, but I would expect such a simple app to not have such steep requirements.

The app currently requires android 5.0+ because of material design stuff. But technically I could make it work on android 4. Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus).

> Never thought so many people are still running older android versions

Well just to chip in, the last stable Cyanogenmod version for my device is based on Android 4.4. There are some nightlies, but never having updated to those (expecting a stable at some point) and being quite happy with my current OS, I'd rather not update.

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by _query »

mgkimsal wrote: post #14
_query wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app currently requires android 5.0+ because of material design stuff. But technically I could make it work on android 4. Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus).

> Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus). This may sound ageist, but it may be because you're just 18 and haven't lived enough yet. Most people don't upgrade android. Most people can't upgrade Android. Per http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html about 33% of devices are Android 5.0 or higher. More than 50% of android users are using 4.1-4.3, and t…

It's a really sad situation for developers IMO. Hopefully google will do something to fix this issue in the future.

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by mgkimsal »

_query wrote: post #16
mgkimsal wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus). This may sound ageist, but it may be because you're just 18 and haven't lived enough yet. Most people don't upgrade android. Most people can't upgrade Android. Per http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html about 33% of devices are Android 5.0 or higher. More than 50% of android users are using 4.1-4.3, and t…

It's a really sad situation for developers IMO. Hopefully google will do something to fix this issue in the future.

They've had... 7+ years to think about it and come up with a plan. Part of the plan was let everyone abuse the branding and give every manufacturer the ability to say "Android!" while giving 0 assurance of current version of upgradability. And we got years of cheap android devices that were, by design, legacy and non-upgradeable.

Perhaps, maybe, in a few years, policies will change enough to say "if you use this brand, you have to adhere to these policies" and maintenance and upgradability will be a required policy. But... the effects of that will be years in to the future - there's no real change in the near term.

Google seemed to intentionally ignore that aspect of licensing, and... somehow we're all collectively dismayed that hardware manufacturers chose their own short term profits over the impact to the Android brand?

Re: Show HN: Project Log – A simple work time tracker

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Post by wingerlang »

mgkimsal wrote: post #14
_query wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app currently requires android 5.0+ because of material design stuff. But technically I could make it work on android 4. Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus).

> Never thought so many people are still running older android versions (My device is a nexus). This may sound ageist, but it may be because you're just 18 and haven't lived enough yet. Most people don't upgrade android. Most people can't upgrade Android. Per http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html about 33% of devices are Android 5.0 or higher. More than 50% of android users are using 4.1-4.3, and t…

Doesn't seem aegist at all, the fragmentation issues Android has is pretty much common knowledge (at least within tech).
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