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The Story Behind F.lux

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Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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I am one of the people who love the idea of f.lux. I use it and it makes my eyes feel a lot better and makes me feel sleepy at the right times. But the app itself is terribly broken, at least on El Capitan. Whenever I switch modes, the screen flashes the original blue colors---my impression is that even a few seconds of blue light can mess up melatonin production, so this is unacceptable, especially from an app that…

The issues you're talking about aren't ones I've seen anyone else complain about (and don't happen for me), so I'm wondering if there's something specific to your configuration that's affecting it.

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

#22

I use redshift[0] on my linux machines which I really like. Cyanogenmod has LiveDisplay natively which is practically the same thing unfortunately it works off off gps location and not manually editable lang/long. Both are really helpful. [0] http://jonls.dk/redshift/

On Linux I use the 'Negative' Compiz plugin. You can apply it on a window by window basis or desktop-wide. For both modes there are keyboard shortcuts (that's what makes it such a killer feature IMO). People find the screen weird when I enable the plugin but I'm a practical guy and this has saved my eyesight.

I know you can invert colors in OSX but the effect is desktop-wide and you can't use a hotkey to enable or disable it. Does something similar exist for other OSes?

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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I am puzzled by so much fuss about one simple and small app (I am not questioning its usefulness, I am using it too). Every once in awhile (and frequently lately) it pops up on hacker news front page or somewhere on the web.

basically its the old Microsoft adage that Apple somehow co-opted, embrace - extend etc etc. Apple implemented a feature for the next release of osx that does what f.lux does, knowingly.

Back in the olden days (System 7~8) Apple would actually buy out the third party tools they wanted to add to the OS (MenuClock, WindowShade, etc). Then Steve Jobs came back and they just started Sherlocking developers instead...

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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post #21

I am one of the people who love the idea of f.lux. I use it and it makes my eyes feel a lot better and makes me feel sleepy at the right times. But the app itself is terribly broken, at least on El Capitan. Whenever I switch modes, the screen flashes the original blue colors---my impression is that even a few seconds of blue light can mess up melatonin production, so this is unacceptable, especially from an app that…

The issues you're talking about aren't ones I've seen anyone else complain about (and don't happen for me), so I'm wondering if there's something specific to your configuration that's affecting it.

Actually I believe these problems are fairly common. I've seen them mentioned before and I experience them myself. I think it has to do with integrated vs discrete graphics in Mac laptops.

Disabling transparency in the accessibility options used to fix it, but it doesn't anymore.

I'm very much hoping that Apple will include this functionality in the next major release of OS X as f.lux has historically had trouble keeping up with OS and hardware updates.

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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post #21

I am one of the people who love the idea of f.lux. I use it and it makes my eyes feel a lot better and makes me feel sleepy at the right times. But the app itself is terribly broken, at least on El Capitan. Whenever I switch modes, the screen flashes the original blue colors---my impression is that even a few seconds of blue light can mess up melatonin production, so this is unacceptable, especially from an app that…

The issues you're talking about aren't ones I've seen anyone else complain about (and don't happen for me), so I'm wondering if there's something specific to your configuration that's affecting it.

I believe this is a known issue, I have the same issues on elcap

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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post #6

I am puzzled by so much fuss about one simple and small app (I am not questioning its usefulness, I am using it too). Every once in awhile (and frequently lately) it pops up on hacker news front page or somewhere on the web.

F.lux is based on a very, very simple idea. It comes from the basic idea that "white" is not a universal when it comes to human vision, because not all light sources are the same. That's why "white balancing" photographs is necessary, because you need to balance colors appropriately for the given light source. But our eyes do this automatically. If you take a white sheet of paper outdoors, indoors, wherever, it will generally always appear white to your eyes, even though its appearance will change color in an absolute sense.

This is where computer displays confound things, because they are a source of light, but they are used among other sources of light. And those light sources change over the course of a typical day. And thus the white balance changes over a typical day. Let's say you're using a computer in an office with white walls. Those walls don't seem to change color throughout the day, but they very much do, because the light illuminating them changes. From sunlight to artificial light. Your eyes adjust to this naturally though. But computer displays don't change, which means that during daylight hours your eyes might perceive the display as being normal while after sunset your eyes start to see the display as blue-ish or excessively bright. Alternately, your eyes could perceive your surroundings as different, seeing artificial lighting as yellowish and dim.

F.lux is simply an attempt to harmonize the white balance of your display with the white balance of your surroundings, based on some information about the type of lighting you have and the local times of sunrise/sunset. Once you get used to it it seems perfectly normal that displays should do this.

The problem is that a lot of the underlying technology (monitors, display drivers, OSes, etc.) are built on entirely different assumptions, the idea that the display itself is a universal arbiter of the "correct" color choices and there's no need to white balance harmonize with the rest of the world. Which means that sometimes it's difficult to get something as simple as F.lux to work on a given platform.

That's why it's a topic of frequent conversation. It should really be a feature built into all displays and operating systems as it's a very straightforward idea. And essentially every digital imager in the world is built based on a universal understanding of the need to account for white balance, but there is still an uphill battle in getting people to understand the need for white balance management in digital displays.

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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I've been using it for a few years. It works.

Sometimes, if using a laptop in bed, I wish it would be possible to make the LED backlight dimmer than the minimum setting, or apply a black semi transparent overlay to dim things, from within f.lux. At the moment I have to use another 3rd party app for that

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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post #21

I am one of the people who love the idea of f.lux. I use it and it makes my eyes feel a lot better and makes me feel sleepy at the right times. But the app itself is terribly broken, at least on El Capitan. Whenever I switch modes, the screen flashes the original blue colors---my impression is that even a few seconds of blue light can mess up melatonin production, so this is unacceptable, especially from an app that…

The issues you're talking about aren't ones I've seen anyone else complain about (and don't happen for me), so I'm wondering if there's something specific to your configuration that's affecting it.

I don't think so – this happens for me as well.

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

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Since I installed F.lux on my work computer I've experienced a significant decrease in eye fatigue and a general increase in productivity while working at night. Would recommend for anyone who works in low-light conditions.

Interesting. I generally start to get really sleepy as soon as the red shifting kicks in. I like it, really need to sleep more, but I wouldn't say it's the recipe for increased productivity.

If you suffer from any kind of eyestrain, it's a godsend. I have it set permanently to my night temperature here in the UK at the moment due to the short days and overcast weather.

Re: The Story Behind F.lux

#30

I use redshift[0] on my linux machines which I really like. Cyanogenmod has LiveDisplay natively which is practically the same thing unfortunately it works off off gps location and not manually editable lang/long. Both are really helpful. [0] http://jonls.dk/redshift/

Going to jump on this train here. F.lux on every platform I've tried has performance issues.
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