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Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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The clickbait article headline is "Why Doesn’t Silicon Valley Hire Black Coders?"

The answer is buried three quarters of the way into the article:

> When they started interviewing seniors, companies found — as Pratt did at Howard — that many were underprepared. They hadn’t been exposed to programming before college and had gaps in their college classes.

So why isn't the article titled, "Why Aren't Enough Black Coders Prepared for Silicon Valley"?

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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This article is so wrong on so many levels. Why are the southern Indian Dravidians whose skin is darker than any of these interviewees' skin not included in the figures for black hiring rates? YES. THEY ARE BLACK. THEY ARE DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF AFRICANS WHO MIGRATED DURING THE BRONZE AGE TO THE INDUS VALLEY. Wipro, Cognizant, Infosys and other body shop companies hire hundreds and thousands of blacks every year to se…

"black" as commonly used in America refers to people of sub-Saharan descent. It does not have much to do with actual skin color.

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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Is it that they don't hire black coders? Or is it that there are very few black coders to begin with? African Americans make up 13% of the US population and they graduate college at a lower rate than other ethic groups. It would also be interesting to look at selected majors across ethnic groups. I suspect that blacks go in to CS at a lower rate than other ethnic groups.

Anecdotally, I went to a very liberal university, and tbh, when I was there, there was a total of 1 black person studying computer science back then.

The percentage of women is relatively low too, but surprisingly, it was at a higher percentage than most of the companies I've worked at.

And tbh, I've only had the chane to work with 1 total black engineer anywhere in my 20+ years of software development. He was very, very good at his job. Total # of people who I've interviewed who were black was less than 5.

To me, the only way to fix it is well before middle school to get them excited about computers because tbh, what I get is a trickle of applicants (and even fewer who are qualified).

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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What the hell is this fucking article even talking about? Silicon valley hires THOUSANDS OF BLACK CODERS from India every year. Some anthropology: The modern day Dravidians are descendants of the Harappan civilisation. WHOSE SETTLERS CAME FROM AFRICA DURING THE BRONZE AGE AROUND 3000 BC. Another fucking shill article by H1B lobbyists to try to lower wages to middle class americans. Class war at its best.

This is like those folks who say that Arabs can't be anti-semitic because Arabic is a Semitic language and the Arabic people are a Semitic people. Or that some people are anti-semitic because of their hostility towards Arabs. At best, they're ignorant of the fact that the word "anti-semitic" is not defined literally but rather defined by the historical, sociological, cultural, and linguistic context in which it was m…

Yes. I do. Which is why the article is so ridiculous. What really defines who is black? Wesley Snipes is black because he's the darkest guy in Hollywood? What about a dark skinned Indian who shares 100% of the extra melanin generating genes? Maybe he's even darker than Wesley Snipes. But no... it must be a lighter skinned mulatto (most of the "blacks" you refer to have white ancestry due to race mixing) whose ancestors were slaves in America to consider them to be black right?

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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"as the only African American on her team, she didn’t feel she had much in common with her colleagues. “When I went out to lunch or something with my team, it was sort of like, ‘Soooo, what are you guys talking about?’ ” she says" I find this sentence really shocking, perhaps because I'm french and in France we try to assimilate people more (I don't really know), but I would definitely think that as a white software…

It's not that surprising. Howard University is 95% black (source: http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=1024 " rel="nofollow">http://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg01_tmpl... ) and is one of the lowest ranked colleges in terms of diversity. Coming from such a culturally closed-off environment to a different one comprised mostly of whites and Asians of different eth…

You're mistaken if you assume that going to Howard means they somehow have less experience with diversity than being in Silicon Valley.

Black people, just by virtue of being a minority in America, are exposed to white people and culture at way higher rates than the reverse. In fact, a major point of going to a historically black college is to get a bit of a "break" from the dominant culture.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hero is a white woman - Finn is a bumbling sidekick.

I agree. Finn is like the new Jar Jar

Finn is nothing like Jar Jar.

Finn made me smile and root for him every time I saw him on screen. He was awkward at times (hey, not much social interaction since he was a ST from early childhood), but his heart was always in the right place. I smile when I think of his character, and look forward to seeing him in the next part of the story, EVEN if he's not a Jedi.

Jar-Jar makes me cringe when I hear him or look at him move. (That's saying a lot considering how bad the writing was for Anakin, IMO.) Jar Jar's purpose seemed to be the Comic Relief, whereas Finn has a much bigger and better-integrated role.

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say the main problem with Americans is that they really do not like to speak any language other than English ;)

I've met Germans who said they wished they had only ever learned English and not German.

German is better for philosophy and technical use, except in the edge cases of much longer words IMO. (I'm English.)

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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It's interesting that it describes Silicon Valley as being too white, when it seems like there are quite a few Asians. Even working elsewhere, a high percentage of our programmers are Asian, higher than the metro's demographics would suggest.

I found that pretty disturbing - right near the start was the claim that Silicon Valley was "too white".

I thought the article was supposed to be about efforts made to empower blacks, but when the writer drops a phrase like that, it's hard to avoid concluding that the efforts are aimed at removing whites.

He could simply have said "not black enough" or "missing black workers" or something similar. Why attack white people?

Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom

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What surprised me from the article is that only 8 out of 10 students at Howard are black. Howard is a historically black university and I assumed the percentage would be 90%+. I did some research and found out that the latest numbers I found were 91% "Black or African American" students at Howard. http://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/howard-university/stu... Offtopic - but Howard has an amazing marching band. They…

Chinstrap! Cool to see a familiar face.

Howard's band was definitely entertaining.

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I'm not sure why anyone would consider that to be a positive, such a closed environment in terms of demographics. Living with people of all races, genders, backgrounds, and sexualities helped me become the man I am today (I've lived with whites, blacks, asians, latinos, men, women, hetero and homosexual people, Americans, and French citizens). Currently I spend a lot of time with my neighbors in Brooklyn. I'm probabl…

As a white guy who also grew up in a predominantly black area with black friends and makes good money, your attempt to appear as the paragon of racial enlightenment makes me cringe.

Do you feel as though your experiences made you better than the OP and so you cringe because of your superior enlightenment? I can't imagine what else you might have in mind, I find nothing particularly cringeworthy in the OP, especially since the whole "paragon of racial enlightenment" bit seems to come entirely from your own head.
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