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Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom
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Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say the main problem with French is that they really do not like to speak any other language than French. It is quite common that, for example, during the lunch with international participation and a French majority the conversation will start in English but then very quickly slip into French and then foreigners are lost. It has also happened to me, when speaking English or being in non-french speaking groups…
I would say the main problem with Americans is that they really do not like to speak any language other than English ;)
I've met Germans who said they wished they had only ever learned English and not German.
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The hero is a white woman - Finn is a bumbling sidekick.
Who also works in "sanitation" I am still incensed by this. The marketing of the movie totally misrepresented what Finn's role would be. I thought he would be the lead jedi. I doubt I will watch any of the forthcoming Star Wars movies.
That was, like, the point, though. I thought it was great when Finn turned out to be mostly useless at Jedi-ing and Rey was actually the main character, because I didn't see it coming after all of the trailers and ads. A bigger twist than, you know, the other one.
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As soon as a minorty achieves success (and often disproportionate success) they are no longer considered minorities.
With 'Latinos' its even weirder. Cubans are almost never treated as minorities (disclaimer: I'm Cuban). White-mexicans are treated as if "you're not really who we're talking about." I have a sneaking suspicion that minority is doublespeak for brown people, but even Indians get excluded from this category... for some reason. Even though I've heard countless heart breaking struggles about first generation Indian-Americ…
> Are Spanish speaking people from Europe called anything?
They're called "the Spanish" or "Spaniards". Sorry, couldn't resist.
Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom
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I found it really shocking as well. Not sure how much of it is due to segregation and how much - due to the inability of the person to socialise… which is not uncommon among technical people from all races.
That is what is so hard about it. Everybody gets treated unfairly from time to time, feels awkward, etc. When you are "black" you don't know the line between racism and man's general inhumanity towards man.
> you don't know the line between racism and man's general inhumanity towards man
Trenchant observation. I am largely a misanthrope and my wife often points out scenarios where I'm coming across as racist/sexist/discriminatory when the reality is that I'm generally not interested in interacting with people.
Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom
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Well I'm not an expert but it seems to me that in France we expect minorities to leave a good part of their culture and become "real french", eat cheese, wear beret and never walk without a baguette under their arms, whereas in the US I was under the impression that there's a lot more effort from minorities to differentiate themselves. I don't think we can really talk of a "black culture" in France (at least not in t…
America is undisputedly the best country at assimililating immigrants. It comes from doing it for centuries. We are one of the only countries with complete mixed ethnicities and a strong nationality. But that doesn't really work for blacks because they aren't a different culture, they are a subculture. Their culture has been a part of American culture from the beginning. For almost all of American history they were e…
Canadian disputes this.
Re: Silicon Valley and Black Coders: Howard University fights to join the tech boom
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Isn't it interesting how "people of color" is a common self-designation for (most frequently) black people, whereas "colored people", literally synonymous, is considered offensive? Of course there are valid historical reasons for it, but many people (probably including GP) don't know about them. The euphemism treadmill can get quite exhausting.
Well, the GP uses "our" in reference US history, and I've never met a single American under the age of 40 who doesn't know that most people consider "colored person" offensive, even if they thought it was a stupid reason. Like most things considered racially offensive, it's less about the dictionary definition of the word and more about what the connotation is. It's the same reason someone in an interracial marriage…
Mad respect to any 130 year olds in interracial marriages. That's impressive on many levels.
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#258The slow progress reflects the knottiness of one of Silicon Valley’s most persistent problems: It’s too white.
It's actually too Asian. And too Jewish. That is, if you're using, you know, math, and a simpleton's understanding of demographics. If you're using contemporary ethnic racketeering, then yeah, it's too white. Even the NFL is too white.
I actually think it would be funny to see Bloomberg come out with an article demanding that fewer Asians and Jews be hired wherever they excel.
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I think that's stretching it. What she said is she doesn't feel like she has much in common with these particular people , not people of other races in general. Most "engineering-types" would probably feel the exact same way if they were asked to join the sales team at their company. Talk about culture shock...
It's not stretching it at all. It's literally what she said: > as the only African American on her team, she didn’t feel she had much in common with her colleagues.
Seems quite prejudiced of her to simply look at her colleagues skin color and assume that she doesn't have much in common with them. Unless by "much" she means "her skin color", but that seems even more racist. I'll give the article the benefit of the doubt.
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#260What the hell is this fucking article even talking about?
Silicon valley hires THOUSANDS OF BLACK CODERS from India every year. Some anthropology:
The modern day Dravidians are descendants of the Harappan civilisation. WHOSE SETTLERS CAME FROM AFRICA DURING THE BRONZE AGE AROUND 3000 BC.
Another fucking shill article by H1B lobbyists to try to lower wages to middle class americans. Class war at its best.