2015 “smashed” 2014’s global temperature record

Post by PeterisP » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 11:13 PM UTC

oolongCat wrote: post #6

I live in one of those "Record Warmest" boxes, it really was hot during the past year. Its funny how people you would consider uneducated and poor in my country would understand that there is clearly something going wrong with the world around us, while some people with lots of money, influence and education choose to believe that this is all a conspiracy by a foreign government. It's just nuts, really, something is…

Post by illegalsmile » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 11:13 PM UTC

lucisferre wrote: post #112

ps4fanboy wrote: post #32

Nuclear Power, until those who care about the environment accept that the only clean at scale power solution for base load is nuclear power we will get no where. "Renewables" are great and should be in the mix but they are not an at scale solution. http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/images/ghgemissions/source... By going mostly electric for our transportation and nuclear for power generation we could really make a den…

This plan seems to ignore the growth curves of renewables. By the time any nuclear power expansion plan gets into place exponential growth in photovoltaics and other renewable technologies will have taken over. Nuclear power would have been a great idea, if we had started at least 10 or 20 years ago. It is unfortunate "environmentalists" did such a disservice to the environment, but we're long past the point of Nucle…

Post by JupiterMoon » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 11:14 PM UTC

VLM wrote: post #70

colmvp wrote: post #26

If this keeps up, I have no idea how countries are going to deal with displaced migrants. We barely have the capability right now to properly deal with Syrians and African refugees.

Moving is expensive. Cheaper to stay in place and work around it. Note that I'm talking about overall total world costs. The only reason you have refugees now is the costs are being externalized. Bombing Syria is pretty cheap if Europe pays the refugee price, not sure the last time Germany bombed Syria, but they're paying the price for someone else doing it right now... Because of the ease of externalizing costs, I s…

Post by ergothus » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 11:17 PM UTC

Afforess wrote: post #16

ergothus wrote: post #3

Okay - help someone that doesn't truly understand this. Earth's surface can gain heat through 4 ways I can think of (and this is just what I can think of and is likely wrong): 1) Geothermal brings more heat from core/mantle up. I don't think this is currently any larger than normal, nor do I imagine this varies much. 2) Oceans can give up heat they are storing and provide it on the surface. I don't know if El Nino is…

The Earth can only "gain" heat through #3, solar radiation. The other 3 items you list can store and release heat at a later time, but they can not generate more heat than they already possess now. (This is not strictly true, conversion of mass to energy, e=mc^2, means that nuclear and fusion energy could create new heat at the expense of matter, but we generally assume that on planets, this is negligible.) So if peo…

Post by jupiter90000 » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 11:19 PM UTC

sebringj wrote: post #122

jupiter90000 wrote: post #40

Is anyone aware if there is reliable data prior to say 1880? [1] Is there any possibility that large scale climate trends could be outside of the observed window of time available? For instance, some large scale natural state-shifting appears to occur on the order of hundreds of years (reference is about earthquakes, but maybe relevant?) [2]. Based on everything I've heard/read/etc about this, it seems unlikely that…

I actually just posted about this -> http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-interme... the co2 lag in the ice core records indicates temperature rise prior to co2 emissions but 90% of the temperature rise then occurs AFTER co2 levels rise so its both natural cycles AND co2 where co2 is the more significant culprit. I was in your camp but got out.