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Post by Piskvorrr »

david-given wrote: post #125
microtonal wrote: post #15

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The CentOS story was named 'the Tuttle hack'. Googling for 'Tuttle hack' finds relevant links: https://lwn.net/Articles/177085/ https://web.archive.org/web/20060427011138/http://www.centos...

That conversation is very sad --- an absolute textbook example of how not to handle this kind of issue. Instead of complicated, technical and annoyed explanations of what Linux was to someone who obviously just doesn't care, the simple statement that: Sorry, we make components for websites. This just means that your web people are using one of our components and has set it up wrong. You'll need to talk to your IT peo…

"Sorry, we make flurble glurble purple." (user's eyes glaze over, rest of line remains unread)

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Post by Houshalter »

DanBC wrote: post #153
currysausage wrote: post #146

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I find it relieving that people were already bad at punctuation 88 years ago.

...and that people have BEEN USING CAPITALS and underlining and different colours for as long as they have.

Underlying was used for emphasis since typewriters can't do italics.

I don't know how they did the different ink thing.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by Houshalter »

USNetizen wrote: post #41
vxxzy wrote: post #4

If you desire to respond, I would relate the topic to her field. She claims to be a photographer. Surely she has a vague idea of copyright law. I would explain that you had developed a piece of Intellectual Property and licensed said property in a specific form -akin to taking a photograph. The person who takes a photograph owns the copyright. It just so happens that Spotify and Instagram, "enjoy your work" and have…

It's analogous to someone calling and threatening Firestone tires because someone broke into their Ford car.

Worse, they claim they've been hacked. It's analogous to someone breaking into their car, and then they threaten firestone.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by philiplu »

Houshalter wrote: post #172
DanBC wrote: post #153

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...and that people have BEEN USING CAPITALS and underlining and different colours for as long as they have.

Underlying was used for emphasis since typewriters can't do italics. I don't know how they did the different ink thing.

I remember this one, from using a typewriter back about 45 years ago, when I was a kid. You could get a dual-color ink ribbon, and could shift the ribbon up to print in red instead of black. Haven't thought of or seen that for many decades.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by anon4 »

kazinator wrote: post #168
madaxe_again wrote: post #24

Ah, this sort of thing is as old as the moon. We run an eCommerce platform, have a variety of clients using it, they have a number of customers. At least once a week we get an accusation either from a client or an end-user of some outlandish nefarious behaviour, usually due to some complete lack of understanding of the nature of technology. Way back when, we responded, tried to help, tried to explain, but it tends to…

The way to explain that is via an analogy. A web site is sort of like an automated cash register. Suppose you bought something in a retail store and when you paid for it, the cashier used a cash register made by the electronics firm Sharp. If you had trouble with the purchase, would you then approach Sharp? Sir, we are like Sharp in this situation. We made the internet version of the "cash register": the web site sof…

It's like if you slip on a magazine someone left on the ground and ask the photographer of the cover photo for recompense for your bruises.

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Post by kazinator »

anon4 wrote: post #175
kazinator wrote: post #168

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The way to explain that is via an analogy. A web site is sort of like an automated cash register. Suppose you bought something in a retail store and when you paid for it, the cashier used a cash register made by the electronics firm Sharp. If you had trouble with the purchase, would you then approach Sharp? Sir, we are like Sharp in this situation. We made the internet version of the "cash register": the web site sof…

It's like if you slip on a magazine someone left on the ground and ask the photographer of the cover photo for recompense for your bruises.

Whoa, now, I would have to see the photo before I can call this one.

It's not implausible.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by anon4 »

speps wrote: post #98
Jabbles wrote: post #42

SQLite has had this problem: https://github.com/mackyle/sqlite/blob/3cf493d4018042c70a4db...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=etilqs Nothing links back directly to SQLite, nice :)

Really? I found https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-... and others complaining about etilqs files and being told they're created by sqlite. It's probably a failure of the software using sqlite if these files persist to the point they become a problem.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by kelvin0 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #141
kelvin0 wrote: post #133

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Could you please give me some citations, papers or any reference? Was he not an advocate of the Heliocentric model accepted today, that almost got him killed? Please correct my historical misconceptions.

Added a link to sources to my original comment.

Will definitely be reading that thanks. However this does not change my initial point: some forward thinking individuals are ahead of their time and are sometimes ostracized for the wrong reasons.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by DannyBee »

robterrell wrote: post #144

My name and email address is the very last thing in the Waze about box, because they used some code I open sourced. Turns out it's the only email address anywhere in the app. Thanks to this, I get about a dozen emails a week from people asking for Waze help. (Lots more when Waze changes something, like hardware support for a particular device!) I've tried contacting Google (either to get these people help, or to get…

I've emailed you privately about getting your email address removed.

In general, Google is going to give credit to open source developers whose code it uses.

Re: “Subject: Urgent Warning”

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Post by stcredzero »

madaxe_again wrote: post #33
xlayn wrote: post #30

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"When you have a conversation with an idiot, nobody watching can tell which one of you is the idiot". They are not idiots, they are average people, tech is complex, I wonder if people who have to be told or explain things to represent a market to attend? Imagine, something were you call a number ask for something to be bought; later someone go picking up the money, you perform the purchase and you later deliver. No c…

If you bellow at a stranger because you don't understand something, you're an idiot, sorry. I'd like to hope an "average" person would not gloss over gaps in their knowledge and jump to a hostile conclusion. In your scenario, say you're the phone company - would you think it reasonable if the customer who called in your example blames you for their having made a call and placed an order, because the phone line must h…

I'd like to hope an "average" person would not gloss over gaps in their knowledge and jump to a hostile conclusion.

This is what many "average" people do, and people have built businesses and political careers out of this.

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