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Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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This reinforced to me that Adblock is a company, while uBlock Origin is just an open-source project. uBlock doesn't need to go to ad conferences and talk to people, it just filters content. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/master/MANIFESTO.md

Exactly! Why should be somebody interested in the context of his work?

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the conference notice front page: Ad blocking is the latest crisis du jour, a potentially existential threat to the industry. I would guess you are correct. What's ironic is that adblock plus understands their value proposition and whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I run Adblock plus for this very reason (as opposed to a less forgiving blocker). Also, they just landed Larry Ellison of Oracle as…

>whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I don't have any source with me right now, but I've heard that they only whitelist advertisers that pay them (I recall some people comparing this to blackmail).

It is comparable to blackmail if they aren't doing any vetting/work or if the advertiser isn't at risk of blacklisting/losing their investment when they put out a troublesome ad.

But the fundamental idea of forcing ad networks to pay for vetting of their ads before they are shown seems very pro-consumer.

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the conference notice front page: Ad blocking is the latest crisis du jour, a potentially existential threat to the industry. I would guess you are correct. What's ironic is that adblock plus understands their value proposition and whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I run Adblock plus for this very reason (as opposed to a less forgiving blocker). Also, they just landed Larry Ellison of Oracle as…

>whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I don't have any source with me right now, but I've heard that they only whitelist advertisers that pay them (I recall some people comparing this to blackmail).

Found one source that indicates that the payment may be substantial: "Financial Times reports that one digital media company (which asked not to be named) was told that it would cost 30 percent of its advertising revenue to be whitelisted by Eyeo and AdBlock Plus." - http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/02/over-300-businesses-...

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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An organization called the "Interactive Advertising Bureau" should understand better than most that this would be a bad move. They'd have to really try hard to dig their heads deeper into the sand. What's the worst thing that could happen as a result of letting Adblock Plus attend? They'd gain a better understanding or ad-blocking technology? Or maybe get some insight into why so many people feel that ad-blocking is…

From the conference notice front page: Ad blocking is the latest crisis du jour, a potentially existential threat to the industry. I would guess you are correct. What's ironic is that adblock plus understands their value proposition and whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I run Adblock plus for this very reason (as opposed to a less forgiving blocker). Also, they just landed Larry Ellison of Oracle as…

> Also, they just landed Larry Ellison of Oracle as a featured speaker.

Man, this would make me cancel my ticket. I try to avoid being in the same state as Larry Ellison. The evil just oozes.

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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I know the exact reason, the IAB wanted Mark to experience how an ad is blocked. Artistic merit.

They've given ABP a beautiful analogy.

They can wax lyrical about how effective blocking is, now that they have done it themselves. Truly, an industry in decline.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>whitelists advertisers if they are not too shitty. I don't have any source with me right now, but I've heard that they only whitelist advertisers that pay them (I recall some people comparing this to blackmail).

I didn't know this, but they admit it on their site, and explain it. https://adblockplus.org/about#monetization TL;DR is that if by participating in the "Acceptable Ads" initiative the organization gains 10 million more ad impressions per month, then they have to pay. If they are "smaller" than that, it's free to them. Everybody has to keep their ads acceptable, however; you can't bribe your way out of it.

> Everybody has to keep their ads acceptable, however; you can't bribe your way out of it.

Riiiiight.

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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An organization called the "Interactive Advertising Bureau" should understand better than most that this would be a bad move. They'd have to really try hard to dig their heads deeper into the sand. What's the worst thing that could happen as a result of letting Adblock Plus attend? They'd gain a better understanding or ad-blocking technology? Or maybe get some insight into why so many people feel that ad-blocking is…

The issue is that AdBlock Plus isn’t really someone neutral.

It’d be easier to get other adblockers to attend, but a company whose business is to blackmail ad companies and get over 30 million USD a year out of that is hard to justify at such a conference.

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"The IAB Annual Leadership Meeting is for serious conversation among important digital industry stakeholders."

Evidently those who prevent any ads from being served by their oh-so "important digital industry stakeholders" won't be part of any "serious conversation".

Adblock, and the many others on the market, will continue to do the non-serious work of blocking ads.

Re: Adblock Plus blocked from attending online ad industry’s big annual conference

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I think is understandable IAB's position. The only reason which makes sense to me to pay such high fee to get in is chase some big guys into "acceptable ads" program. Charging money to whitelist is a little questionable attitude to me. Something between hypocrisy and irony.
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