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The unsexy IoT

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Re: The unsexy IoT

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My view with IoT is that is true value lies in the monitoring and data collection aspect, and the analysis and prediction that it enables. Consumer IoT doesn't value from this - consumer IoT is all about having Bluetooth and smartphone apps for your foobar gadget.

Industrial IoT is where the value is - and it's been around for years. Airlines and manufacturers like Boeing and Airbus have streams of data from planes all over the world that allow them to pick trends, predict failures, and take preemptive action. Agriculture use IoT to take real-time measurements across their entire farms without spending hours driving, and get their robotic tractors to go respond with water/fertilizer/pest control. Consumer IoT isn't in a position to get these 'aggregate' benefits.

Re: The unsexy IoT

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> There is, however, enormous opportunity in crossing this chasm. The new IoT provides valuable data about its users, their habits, daily routines and preferences. The old IoT generates detailed information about the environment they interact in. Combining both with big data crunching technology will lead to unprecedented (and slightly scary) insights into individual user’s behavioral patterns as well as into the systems they compose.

And this is the gap that I don't want to be bridged. One of the reasons I love my rpi's, is that I end up with ultimate control over my device and it's data. At the end of the day, I decide what leaves my home, not $smart_company. If I decide to submit that data to them, sure, they can run with it, but if they require me to send it? I'm not even going to consider their product.

The data-crunching would also have to be done on my server, or I'm not interested. Yes, I understand that my home-server is probably not powerful enough to do the processing required, but I'll live without whatever feature requires it.

Re: The unsexy IoT

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My view with IoT is that is true value lies in the monitoring and data collection aspect, and the analysis and prediction that it enables. Consumer IoT doesn't value from this - consumer IoT is all about having Bluetooth and smartphone apps for your foobar gadget. Industrial IoT is where the value is - and it's been around for years. Airlines and manufacturers like Boeing and Airbus have streams of data from planes a…

I don't think there are any valid use cases for a widely distributed network of any kind of personal item that make sense for consumers. Consumers don't continuously manage large repetitive processes. They don't own items that remain distributed, or are being redistributed on any regular basis. They simply don't have the minimum threshold of Things that would benefit from the Internet.

Re: The unsexy IoT

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> There is, however, enormous opportunity in crossing this chasm. The new IoT provides valuable data about its users, their habits, daily routines and preferences. The old IoT generates detailed information about the environment they interact in. Combining both with big data crunching technology will lead to unprecedented (and slightly scary) insights into individual user’s behavioral patterns as well as into the sys…

Do the channels yourself with NATS. http://bit.ly/1ZzpJAw

Re: The unsexy IoT

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post #4

My view with IoT is that is true value lies in the monitoring and data collection aspect, and the analysis and prediction that it enables. Consumer IoT doesn't value from this - consumer IoT is all about having Bluetooth and smartphone apps for your foobar gadget. Industrial IoT is where the value is - and it's been around for years. Airlines and manufacturers like Boeing and Airbus have streams of data from planes a…

I don't think there are any valid use cases for a widely distributed network of any kind of personal item that make sense for consumers. Consumers don't continuously manage large repetitive processes. They don't own items that remain distributed, or are being redistributed on any regular basis. They simply don't have the minimum threshold of Things that would benefit from the Internet.

How about the various "where are my friends" tracking apps, dating gadgets that light up when a person with shared interests is nearby, body metrics scanner that help health services create a map of say areas with an increased amount of people having hay fever?

Re: The unsexy IoT

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> There is, however, enormous opportunity in crossing this chasm. The new IoT provides valuable data about its users, their habits, daily routines and preferences. The old IoT generates detailed information about the environment they interact in. Combining both with big data crunching technology will lead to unprecedented (and slightly scary) insights into individual user’s behavioral patterns as well as into the sys…

I wrote a library to enable secure communications over insecure channels for IoT, maybe it'll be useful to you: https://stringphone.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

Re: The unsexy IoT

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post #7

> There is, however, enormous opportunity in crossing this chasm. The new IoT provides valuable data about its users, their habits, daily routines and preferences. The old IoT generates detailed information about the environment they interact in. Combining both with big data crunching technology will lead to unprecedented (and slightly scary) insights into individual user’s behavioral patterns as well as into the sys…

I wrote a library to enable secure communications over insecure channels for IoT, maybe it'll be useful to you: https://stringphone.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

Interesting. I actually run a web-server, and I only control my stuff through a web-API's, but that could also be useful....

Thanks

Re: The unsexy IoT

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> There is, however, enormous opportunity in crossing this chasm. The new IoT provides valuable data about its users, their habits, daily routines and preferences. The old IoT generates detailed information about the environment they interact in. Combining both with big data crunching technology will lead to unprecedented (and slightly scary) insights into individual user’s behavioral patterns as well as into the sys…

I agree with you mostly, but I do want that divide to be crossed, by software that I the user control, not by software that $smart_company controls. It's my data!

If it's a choice between $smart_company or nobody though, I'll take nobody. Thanks to firewalls and blocking outbound connections from IoT devices, it's often not that black and white.

Re: The unsexy IoT

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post #4

My view with IoT is that is true value lies in the monitoring and data collection aspect, and the analysis and prediction that it enables. Consumer IoT doesn't value from this - consumer IoT is all about having Bluetooth and smartphone apps for your foobar gadget. Industrial IoT is where the value is - and it's been around for years. Airlines and manufacturers like Boeing and Airbus have streams of data from planes a…

I don't think there are any valid use cases for a widely distributed network of any kind of personal item that make sense for consumers. Consumers don't continuously manage large repetitive processes. They don't own items that remain distributed, or are being redistributed on any regular basis. They simply don't have the minimum threshold of Things that would benefit from the Internet.

Mostly true, but I think there can be exceptions such as PressureNet and Waze.
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