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Life is Short

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Re: Life is Short

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> When time is scarce, you start to prioritize things that are really important to you. It takes me ~10 minutes to shop online and buy the parts I need to put together my own PC. When I receive it, it takes me an additional 15 minutes to unbox it, and put it all together. Then another 30 installing the OS and all the programs I will need. That's less than an hour. Given the price difference between a Mac and a PC wit…

Unless you do this all day, there's no way it would take 10 minutes to research all the components that go into a PC and put it all together. Heck, even researching which model of Mac to buy took me more than two hours. 15 minutes to unbox probably doesn't include taking out the trash. :) I'm a power user, so I need a lot of programs and setting them up properly usually takes 4-6 hours if not more. Just finding and i…

> Unless you do this all day, there's no way it would take 10 minutes to research all the components that go into a PC and put it all together.

No, this isn't true at all. The first time you put together your own computer, sure, maybe, it may take a bit longer. But the next time and the time after that, it becomes quicker and quicker because you already know the basics. It only takes 10 minutes to see what new GPUs or CPUs have come out.

Hell, if you didn't know anything about PCs, it would only take 5 minutes to look up all the parts in the latest Mac and order them off newegg. You could build your own exact copy of the latest mac and the research time would be negligible since you already know what parts you need since they're listed right there on the Mac SPEC sheet. And you'd save yourself hundreds of dollars.

> Last two times I got a new computer, it took me 2-3 days before I could work on them at full speed.

My 64 year old senile-ish father without any background in PCs put together his own PC and had it up and running in less than 4 hours. I don't buy 2 days at all. That's either an exaggeration or an outright lie.

> I'm a power user

A power user that cannot put together his own PC in under 2 days? I'm not sure I buy that. It's like a MLB player not being able to hit a ball that's traveling over 65 MPH. Even the pitchers are well enough versed to get hits occasionally.

Re: Life is Short

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And by buying the lines of bullshit that make you feel this way you are causing the very problem, and it hurts not only you but also your peers.

I understand where you are coming from, but it is not that I am buying 'the lines of bullshit that make [me] feel this way', it just so happens that I need (any) job in the tech field as a recent CS grad, and I have only started searching and I would gladly be employed even under non-ideal conditions. This, I presume, is the predicament of at least a small portion of people in our industry. Yet, your sentiment and li…

> I need (any) job in the tech field as a recent CS grad

Would you take a job that offered you $1/year of wage, or a job that offered literally zero vacation days? No? Well then it means you don't need any job, but rather you are in a hurry to select some job that still meets certain minimum criteria.

You probably at least require that the job pays well enough for you to support yourself, and maybe others too, and that the job offers you access to affordable medical, dental, and life insurance. You probably also expect the job to have some range of regular hours, approximately 40-50 hours working per week, with an expectation that you do not usually need to work overtime or on weekends.

You probably also require that while you're working, you are shielded from dangerous situations (e.g. you're not writing code while dangling from a helicopter, and there's not a hole in the roof over your desk, ...).

This is a lot of stuff that you require. In fact, out of the space of all possible jobs, you're actually looking for jobs that fit into an extremely tiny niche.

These things just happen to be the most common norms around employment in the developed world. We don't have to negotiate as hard for them now, and you know why? Because people in the past negotiated extremely hard for them, and refused to take 'no' for an answer, and led strikes, lock-ins, demonstrations, bargaining agreements, and political diplomacy in order to secure either laws or strong social norms to protect these things.

When those people approached employment, they didn't say, well, I'm a beggar with few options, so I had better subject myself to anti-human treatment and just take whatever I am given.

Instead they said, I am a human being with talent and skill (and if you earned a degree in CS, you have a lot of talent and skill compared to vast sections of the working population). They said because I am a human being, I deserve to be treated with some types of basic respect and dignity and not sold bullshit excuses for anti-human conditions.

And now, the battle for employee-protecting laws or social norms (at least for developers) has shifted to be about protection of workplace privacy and productivity (get rid of Agile/Scrum and get rid of open-plan offices) and the respect to be paid fair wage and compensation for your skills (don't fall prey to start-up bullshit which argues that you ought to view certain sets of experiences or chances as valuable and be willing to trade compensation to get them).

You don't need any job. You need a job that meets your goals. When you're young you might fool yourself into thinking that sitting in an open floor plan or agreeing to be bound by Agile aren't a big part of your goals. Then you realize that managers, executives, investors, and so forth, who put you in the open-plan office and tether you to Agile/Scrum fundamentally see you as commodity labor, perfectly easy to replace, and have stopped caring whatsoever about your career progress from almost the first moment they hired you.

It would require a massive, short-term discount factor on your own personal value to make that worthwhile -- such an incredibly self-deprecating amount of discount that it realistically could only be due to a literal emergency situation -- like you need a paycheck today or you will literally die.

And I'd argue that if you have minimum salary requirements, or some fuzzy idea of regular working hours or minimum vacation requirements, then you're not at all in a situation where you need wage as a literal emergency necessitating you to deeply undervalue yourself. And even if you did, you could simply compromise on the field of labor, and do something besides CS jobs if you had to.

At any rate, I do not agree that simply being young and needing a first job is any excuse at all for being willing to tolerate open-plan offices, Agile/Scrum, or the false promises of start-ups. Just say no to all that shit and you'll ensure the first job you get actually helps you in terms of having an actually prosperous software career.

Re: Life is Short

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Unless you do this all day, there's no way it would take 10 minutes to research all the components that go into a PC and put it all together. Heck, even researching which model of Mac to buy took me more than two hours. 15 minutes to unbox probably doesn't include taking out the trash. :) I'm a power user, so I need a lot of programs and setting them up properly usually takes 4-6 hours if not more. Just finding and i…

> Unless you do this all day, there's no way it would take 10 minutes to research all the components that go into a PC and put it all together. No, this isn't true at all. The first time you put together your own computer, sure, maybe, it may take a bit longer. But the next time and the time after that, it becomes quicker and quicker because you already know the basics. It only takes 10 minutes to see what new GPUs o…

> But the next time and the time after that, it becomes quicker and quicker because you already know the basics. It only takes 10 minutes to see what new GPUs or CPUs have come out.

Is this assuming that one would be building a PC with only a few years in-between?

It’s been more than 8 years since I built a PC, having assembled three of them in the past. It would definitely take me more than 10 minutes to research hardware because, after being shielded from the hardware complexity after using a Mac for so long, I’d need to research to make sure my previous knowledge of how to build a PC are still applicable.

Sure, it wouldn’t take me 2 days, and if not a lot has changed since I last built one four hours seems doable. But if I was very unsure of myself somewhere in the middle is more realistic and probably a more accurate assumption of how long it would take someone research, order and assemble a PC.

Re: Life is Short

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Quote from the dalai lama: Man surprised me most about humanity. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.

That quote is not actually from the Dalai Lama, or at the very least there’s enough evidence on the interwebs to suggest this is the case (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/525471-man-surprised-me-mos...).

Re: Life is Short

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You are missing out by not cooking.

Why is that? I'm cooking all my meals but think it's the worst choir of all. Complete waste of time.

Cooking can be creative and relaxing. I don't find it all too different from coding which I also like :) But yeah it's relative but the worst choir... You clean yourself? I cannot imagine you find it worse than cleaning which is mindnumbing crap. Maybe cooking can be as well if you cook more or less the same every day or cook something uninspired?

I guess you are both very young; I used to think eating was a waste of time in my 20s. I was dreaming of having a nutrition drip so I didn't have to waste time cooking or eating. But nothing beats cleaning or doing laundry imho.

Re: Life is Short

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post #145

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The Bayesian spam thing was already known before the essay. Essayists should expect critiques. His argument was that technology is the creator of inequality and it can't be stopped. That startups (and stock options) capture a lot of that wealth is a side effect. This is the capitalist thesis. It's not quite Randian but it's close enough that it comes across as one dimensional. In his defense he said we should focus o…

> "His argument was that technology is the creator of inequality and it can't be stopped." Not quite. The argument was that technology is a lever that multiplies the differences in productivity between us, not that it is the creator of it. > "That startups (and stock options) capture a lot of that wealth is a side effect." Businesses generally capture this wealth. PG has argued in many essays that start-ups are a gre…

> But is this really what we want? Do we want to broadly discourage all wealth creation at the same time?

Is this a given/has this been proven? I do not believe taxation (alone) discourages wealth creation. Otherwise certain high-tax countries would not be 'creating wealth' today.

Re: Life is Short

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Mr Graham, I respect you and you've accomplished more that I will in my life, but I sincerely hope that this essay against "bullshit" and "arguing online" isn't you declaring that you'll be "bubbling" yourself after your last essay was met with wide disagreement. It's possible that sometimes, no matter how smart you are, your experiences have been limited in a way and you're missing a part of something everyone else…

Wide disagreement? Sure, the people who disagreed wrote essays, but people who agree are usually invisible (how do you write an essay about agreeing with some other essay? and why would you bother?). I think the reason some people got so riled up was that there was so much uncomfortable truth in those essays. Just as people usually don't bother to post when they agree with something, they usually don't bother to post…

Quite a lot of us who disagree haven't gotten around to write essays about that either.

Re: Life is Short

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post #375

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> when I was 20 or so Ok. "20 or so" describes me. And things aren't going so well. Out of uni, and life feels pretty empty. Family has fallen apart, friends are friends of convenience, work is very intense - perhaps too much - and everything is going into keeping going. The brave face, making sure I eat, making sure I run, cycle, climb. The dreams I had even six months ago, feeling ever more impossible. The lure of…

Listen this, it might help: https://sivers.org/ml

Thank you

In many ways this is a solidification of a lot of what I have been thinking

Re: Life is Short

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> working hard for unappreciative, self-centred people is one of them. That's a bit of a luxury, you don't always have that choice but on the whole I agree with the idea. I'd re-phrase it to don't work for assholes if you can avoid it. I'm fortunate enough now that this is a rare occurrence but even now every now and then a deal goes by that is financially too sweet to let go and I still take them. Last year this hap…

It's interesting you say this, I currently have four weeks to run on a very well-paying contract which I chose to terminate. The money's been nice, and so are the people I work with, but I have enough in the bank now where I can take a chance on doing something different without risking financial hardship. Let's just say that, after two heart surgeries last year, I don't mind taking the risk that my plans fall over a…

Great insight, thanks for sharing. Godspeed to you!

Re: Life is Short

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This is my least favorite. I respect his advice on startups, but little else. This sounds like the stuff Oprah used to say.

You sound like an idiot. How in the world is this comparable to something oprah says? This reminds me of how Karl Popper critiques people's opinions, at times he rejects both the pro/anti side of something, as he did in anti-naturalist history vs naturalist history arguing that both were based on a misunderstanding of the logical content of the thing in question. In this regard you have misunderstood the logical cont…

> You sound like an idiot.

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