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airbnb has a real problem: VRBO. VRBO is routinely cheaper than airbnb, has been around longer, and doesn't have the legal issues, and has the support of the baby boomers. Good luck, airbnb.
Have you ever tried to rent from VRBO? I did a couple years ago and have never been back. Approx 30 calls, 6 or 7 responded, a couple of those hadn't kept their calendars up-to-date, and only 2 actually were available and matched the info on the site. I was doing my best to spend $6k on a ski vacation and vrbo just didn't want to cooperate. The whole thing was a giant waste of time.
Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
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Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
#262"over-hyped gimmicky thing trendy with hipsters out-of-touch with reality starts to fail over short period of time" not surprised one bit. i echo the sentiment of other commenters who give other examples. this is only surprising if you are also out of touch with reality
"trendy with hipsters out-of-touch with reality" If only you knew some actual Etsy users. Many are suburban mothers that like to craft.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
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> Look at google. They know search is about to change majorly, they have already spun into a meta-architecture. In what way is search about to change majorly? To me that seemed more like a way to keep experimental projects without affecting Google as a stock.
My personal opinion is that open sourcing googlebot[0] and tensorflow, as well as a the numerous other tools like elastic search and frameworks like hadoop make it pretty easy to make narrow search tools. So someone like me, a pretty shitty programmer, can use an language built on top of googlebot, like nodejs, and just index the stuff I care about and instead of that information being returned to google, I can just…
I also find searching for anything remotely niche has become extremely difficult because of this. Example being finding instructions on how to install some bike parts today. There were articles about the specific parts eventually, but only after significant iterations of my search terms and wading through all the matches from people targeting those keywords to sell product.
I feel like Google specifically are failing to wade through the sea of noise, and as a result it's becoming less and less useful.
It works well for things like programming troubleshooting, because we have high signal resources (stack overflow, for example) that often have the answers we need. But for anything outside of developer specific topics I usually have a really hard time finding anything useful and not spammy.
I now rely on having stumbled on some good sources, and sticking to reading those, rather than googling subject matters these days.
HN, Reddit and various news and tech sites curate content as you said, but the problem is that this creates a bubble and the beautiful world of exploration and learning that the web was all about disappears.
I am excited to see how we solve this problem, and who solves it.
In regards to Google Search going away, I feel like even if their search engine failed, the AdSense network would live on, and that is where the majority of their income comes from.
I'm not sure if the majority of it comes from Network ads (ads displayed on other sites) or search ads (ads displayed in their search engine). That might be informative of where they plan to focus their energies over the coming decades.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
My personal opinion is that open sourcing googlebot[0] and tensorflow, as well as a the numerous other tools like elastic search and frameworks like hadoop make it pretty easy to make narrow search tools. So someone like me, a pretty shitty programmer, can use an language built on top of googlebot, like nodejs, and just index the stuff I care about and instead of that information being returned to google, I can just…
I definitely agree on your points about the majority of the web being low quality noise. Not just in a "humans produce garbage" sense but also that various SEO and marketing techniques have created a sea of automatically generated nonsense content that search engines now have to wade through. I also find searching for anything remotely niche has become extremely difficult because of this. Example being finding instru…
A problem is "useful to google" means serving you all those sites trying to sell you stuff and keeping you "on the web" longer so they can show you more ads and extract more data from your activities. They have to balance that with actually giving you what is useful to you.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
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My thoughts exactly! Etsy seems like a perfect business for someone like eBay to snap up. Though I could see Amazon having an interest, too.
I understand the product-fit, but what incremental value does Etsy bring to either of those companies?
Some selected blog posts:
- Leveling Up Your Organization with System Reviews (Their latest post. https://codeascraft.com/2015/12/21/leveling-up-with-system-r...)
- Fault Injection in Production (http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2353017)
- Q3 2015 Site Performance Report (Posted every quarter. https://codeascraft.com/2015/11/10/q3-2015-site-performance-...)
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
#266The lockup agreement expired. Looks like employees and executives are selling up big time. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/etsy-shares-fall-after-expi...
That's crazy. The employees owners just gutted the value of their own company.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
#267The lockup agreement expired. Looks like employees and executives are selling up big time. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/etsy-shares-fall-after-expi...
That's crazy. The employees owners just gutted the value of their own company.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
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The way I read his comment was a difference between perceived value and actual value. Market share is equivalent to perceived value, not actual value. So the comment was remarking that the drop in share price could be the result of inflated expectations becoming more realistic rather than a loss of actual value of the company. The biggest difference between perceived and actual value that I'm aware of is the tulip ma…
What are you talking about? The value to the people is what they will pay for it. If nobody is buying it at a certain price, then there is nobody that feels it has value at or above that price. There is no 'real value' of something vs its market value.
Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months
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Neither of them have marketplaces for custom made goods (for the most part at least compared to etsy) and both are in competition with each other to expand their marketplaces to as far as they can go. Seems like it would be a good fit to me. I'm not sure how it ultimately gets integrated it (maybe it doesn't?).
What about Amazon? They launched a competing marketplace in October: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/business/amazon-challenges... But, don't let that stop you...
https://www.reddit.com/r/handmadeamazon/comments/3xncph/how_...
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Amazon is frequently in the red.
A couple years ago I met with the guy who runs tech there and he said they had 150 developers....! How many do they have now and what the heck are they working on?