Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by geerlingguy » Fri, Jan 15, 2016, 1:18 PM UTC

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by geerlingguy » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 3:20 AM UTC

Drupal and Wikipedia both celebrating 15 years today; jQuery 10 years earlier this week... All three projects that have affected my life in a very positive way, and have made the web a better place.

Thanks, Dries, Jimmy, and John!

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by jagger27 » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 4:39 AM UTC

Dries will be presenting at hack.summit in February.

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by smpetrey » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 5:58 AM UTC

I just started playing around with Drupal for work today. What a serendipitous day :)

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by jonesb6 » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 7:35 AM UTC

Pretty sure one of the Drupal guys worked in the same co-working place I did. He was very cool, anecdotally promising the future of Drupal to be really cool.

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by bbayer » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:21 AM UTC

I used and liked Drupal a lot. The only thing bothers me to see enormous number of queries running even for a single page web site. I think it is a sacrifice for the sake of creating all-purpose application.

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by gushie » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 9:46 AM UTC

Is that all? I thought that was just the gap between major releases ;-)

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by jacquesm » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 10:14 AM UTC

bbayer wrote: post #6

I used and liked Drupal a lot. The only thing bothers me to see enormous number of queries running even for a single page web site. I think it is a sacrifice for the sake of creating all-purpose application.

No, it's the price of a naive approach to maintaining a data model programmatically. This is a very weak point of drupal and the performance overhead it generates is incredible.

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by jacquesm » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 10:20 AM UTC

smpetrey wrote: post #4

I just started playing around with Drupal for work today. What a serendipitous day :)

Save yourself a lot of grief and either go for symfony2 (also quite heavy but a lot better written and much more maintainable than drupal), or laravel (based on symfony2 components).

Better yet, avoid the php ecosystem completely and go for a more mature one, even the python and ruby frameworks have better long term prospects than most php based stuff.

The biggest downside is that you'll find it harder to find programmers, the upside is that you'll find fewer 'absolute beginners' and interviewing will be a bit easier (fewer respondents, higher overall quality).

I'm writing this as a very long time PHP user that also spent considerable time on the drupal offerings.

Re: Drupal: 15 years old

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Post by aikah » Sat, Jan 16, 2016, 10:52 AM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #8

bbayer wrote: post #6

I used and liked Drupal a lot. The only thing bothers me to see enormous number of queries running even for a single page web site. I think it is a sacrifice for the sake of creating all-purpose application.

No, it's the price of a naive approach to maintaining a data model programmatically. This is a very weak point of drupal and the performance overhead it generates is incredible.

> it's the price of a naive approach to maintaining a data model programmatically

Are you talking about their node system ?