I find the current situation with Github very unhealthy, because, even though very unlikely, someone can literally pull off the plug of open-source. Not all, but a great part. If such thing happened, be it with government intervention or some crazy attack towards github, it would make us lose a lot time migrating to other solutions. It would be like a Great Barbaric Invasion of Open Source, where everyone migrated to Bitbucket or private solutions, sort of an OSS incastellation.
An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
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Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#12The motivation behind this letter is embarrassing.
It's as if they were talking to GitHub the thankless FOSS maintainer. Quit mirroring guys. It's a for-profit enterprise that would do well to listen to the concerns of its userbase.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#13I recommend, dont send any pull requests. On of the useless project on Github. How he gonna merge 1000s of PR - and PR to just add a name - seriously? This is just waste of time & resources.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#14I assume this is a response to the "Dear Github" letter. I'm fairly certain that everyone involved in that letter (including myself), is very appreciative of Github and its impact on OSS. That letter didn't feel ungrateful or malicious at all to me, but I sure hope it didn't come off that way to others. What I do frequently see with Github, is that they've managed to work their way into almost being beyond reproach.…
> That letter didn't feel ungrateful or malicious at all to me, but I sure hope it didn't come off that way to others.
It might have; software engineering is a big tent, and people who touch Github (in at least someway) no doubt comprise a huge part of it. Full disclaimer, I'm biased, as I opened an issue attempting to address some potential editorial/tone issues, and the initial response was not good (a big part of that may be questions of who exactly is "involved" with the letter. How should others become involved and contribute in a way the OPs feel is constructive?)
As another commenter pointed out, not everything is so black and white. In this case, no one should be "beyond reproach", but what seem like simple issues to Issues may indeed be representative of strong product/technical decisions from an opinionated vendor. IMO it's not inherently clear that the people behind dear-github entirely recognized the nuance here. No one is looking to pick fights or troll anyone, because no, not everyone who is passionate about this issue is a meanie. That said, the original letter and the immediate response could be interpreted as brash, and to that end, I wouldn't be surprised that someone responded with thank-you-github as an opposite reaction.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#15Github makes millions of dollars per year and has a huge amount of users so the product is proven good. While I understand the need to be appreciative of Github, giving the organization a bit of user feedback is not going to hurt them very much. The response assumes that this is written because of the "Dear Github" letter.
Constructive feedback is fine, but "I have told you, you know that, but you are ignoring me, what's wrong" is a different story. My reaction to that is 1) it shows you already sent the feedback, what you want is to complain in public, and 2) I own you no shit.
That's a rather wild insinuation of the "Dear GitHub" authors' motivation. If your constructive feedback is ignored you have to start a public discussion to get the thing rolling again. That's not necessarily as selfish as you imply. There are a lot of people who would benefit from the addressed issues being resolved.
> I own you no shit
GitHub might owe them nothing, but it's in their own interest to address and resolve those issues and not just stash them away somewhere. Their biggest selling point is the great UI and the userbase. If the later becomes frustrated because issues with the former don't get resolved, that might be a huge problem for GitHub in the future. Today, there are viable alternatives after all.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#16I find the current situation with Github very unhealthy, because, even though very unlikely, someone can literally pull off the plug of open-source. Not all, but a great part. If such thing happened, be it with government intervention or some crazy attack towards github, it would make us lose a lot time migrating to other solutions. It would be like a Great Barbaric Invasion of Open Source, where everyone migrated to…
The bug tracking data might be tough to replicate, but everything else is stored on each contributor's machine. I think recovery time wouldn't be so bad.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#17That user seriously gonna merge any incoming PR? What a great person with hell lot of time.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#18I assume this is a response to the "Dear Github" letter. I'm fairly certain that everyone involved in that letter (including myself), is very appreciative of Github and its impact on OSS. That letter didn't feel ungrateful or malicious at all to me, but I sure hope it didn't come off that way to others. What I do frequently see with Github, is that they've managed to work their way into almost being beyond reproach.…
> I'm fairly certain that everyone involved in that letter (including myself), is very appreciative of Github and its impact on OSS
Well then sign this one too (:
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#19such a letter should include a note of thanks to torvalds for creating git in the first place.
Re: An open letter of gratitude to GitHub
#20I assume this is a response to the "Dear Github" letter. I'm fairly certain that everyone involved in that letter (including myself), is very appreciative of Github and its impact on OSS. That letter didn't feel ungrateful or malicious at all to me, but I sure hope it didn't come off that way to others. What I do frequently see with Github, is that they've managed to work their way into almost being beyond reproach.…
> I'm fairly certain that everyone involved in that letter (including myself), is very appreciative of Github and its impact on OSS Well then sign this one too (:
When I read the "Dear GitHub" repo my first thought was, I agree with some of this, but my overall attitude toward GitHub is gratitude and the flexibility to create whatever repo standards you want to. I then saw the "Thank You GitHub" repo and think it's a great way to express that gratitude!
I personally do not view these as rival repos. They just express different sentiment and serve two purposes (again not apposing each other).
Does this have to be viewed as a polar opposite response to "Dear GitHub"?