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Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by m_t »

scott77 wrote: post #8

Interestingly enough, during last trip to London, my phone (Nexus 5 running Cyanogenmod 12.1) was able to somehow detect something fishy and warned me several times "Network may be monitored by an unknown 3rd party". Among others, I've seen this warning two times out of two when passing by Cheapside/St Martin's corner - next to the St Paul's Cathedral. At the time I just dismissed this as some tinfoil hat developer a…

I'm not getting these warning on my Nexus 4 running the default Android build. The only time I see them is when I use my own VPN connection.

Do you think it might get triggered on your phone by the presence of the anti-porn filter that UK mobile provider have? For instance, when trying to access "adult" website (I use quotes as sometimes, even non porno website gets filtered out) you end up on your mobile provider page blocking you from the actual website your looking for.

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by ter0 »

scott77 wrote: post #8

Interestingly enough, during last trip to London, my phone (Nexus 5 running Cyanogenmod 12.1) was able to somehow detect something fishy and warned me several times "Network may be monitored by an unknown 3rd party". Among others, I've seen this warning two times out of two when passing by Cheapside/St Martin's corner - next to the St Paul's Cathedral. At the time I just dismissed this as some tinfoil hat developer a…

Could this be caused by the phone surveillance that's set up in One New Change? There are (small) notices at the entrances to One New Change that inform you of phone tracking equipment there.

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by kawsper »

raverbashing wrote: post #10
alex_duf wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't feel safe until the battery is removed (which unfortunately isn't possible on most phones anymore) The baseband still has access to your battery when your phone is off.

> The baseband still has access to your battery when your phone is off. Citation needed? Because the definition of off, for most phones, is exactly that.

Snowden didn't want to be in a room with a phone, no matter the state of the phone.

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by [deleted] »

m_t wrote: post #11
scott77 wrote: post #8

Interestingly enough, during last trip to London, my phone (Nexus 5 running Cyanogenmod 12.1) was able to somehow detect something fishy and warned me several times "Network may be monitored by an unknown 3rd party". Among others, I've seen this warning two times out of two when passing by Cheapside/St Martin's corner - next to the St Paul's Cathedral. At the time I just dismissed this as some tinfoil hat developer a…

I'm not getting these warning on my Nexus 4 running the default Android build. The only time I see them is when I use my own VPN connection. Do you think it might get triggered on your phone by the presence of the anti-porn filter that UK mobile provider have? For instance, when trying to access "adult" website (I use quotes as sometimes, even non porno website gets filtered out) you end up on your mobile provider pa…

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Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

#17

Post by Thlom »

Same thing found in Oslo about a year ago. Police Security Service denied they existed though. If I remember correctly these were mostly located around parliament and other government institutions as well as in the embassy area.

Report in english: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/New-report-Clear-sig...

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

m_t wrote: post #11
scott77 wrote: post #8

Interestingly enough, during last trip to London, my phone (Nexus 5 running Cyanogenmod 12.1) was able to somehow detect something fishy and warned me several times "Network may be monitored by an unknown 3rd party". Among others, I've seen this warning two times out of two when passing by Cheapside/St Martin's corner - next to the St Paul's Cathedral. At the time I just dismissed this as some tinfoil hat developer a…

I'm not getting these warning on my Nexus 4 running the default Android build. The only time I see them is when I use my own VPN connection. Do you think it might get triggered on your phone by the presence of the anti-porn filter that UK mobile provider have? For instance, when trying to access "adult" website (I use quotes as sometimes, even non porno website gets filtered out) you end up on your mobile provider pa…

Some details regarding the message here: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/61750/android-ki...

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

#19

Post by tombrossman »

raverbashing wrote: post #10
alex_duf wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't feel safe until the battery is removed (which unfortunately isn't possible on most phones anymore) The baseband still has access to your battery when your phone is off.

> The baseband still has access to your battery when your phone is off. Citation needed? Because the definition of off, for most phones, is exactly that.

Good point, asking for a citation. It's an extraordinary claim and so requires something to back it up. A quick search turns up this quote from a 2013 Washington Post story "By September 2004, a new NSA technique enabled the agency to find cellphones even when they were turned off. JSOC troops called this “The Find,” and it gave them thousands of new targets, including members of a burgeoning al-Qaeda-sponsored insurgency in Iraq, according to members of the unit." Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-g...

Re: Signs of Secret Phone Surveillance Across London

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Post by razakel »

scott77 wrote: post #8

Interestingly enough, during last trip to London, my phone (Nexus 5 running Cyanogenmod 12.1) was able to somehow detect something fishy and warned me several times "Network may be monitored by an unknown 3rd party". Among others, I've seen this warning two times out of two when passing by Cheapside/St Martin's corner - next to the St Paul's Cathedral. At the time I just dismissed this as some tinfoil hat developer a…

Check your certificates. I saw this when I installed a Fiddler root certificate.
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