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Re: Dear GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By their very nature, git repos are one of the easiest things to migrate. Simply point at a new remote and push, and that's really it. It means that, unlike many other services, I could see GitHub being completely abandoned almost over night. If something better came along.

You would lose the issues.

I am pretty sure that a potential competitor will use GitHub's APIs to import issues as well.

Re: Dear GitHub

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I do like Github, and I understand how it makes the entire process of maintaining a code repo a lot easier, but what I'd genuinely like to know is why don't big projects just move to their own thing? I understand that there isn't a single solution that exactly matches what Github has, and that maintaining your own git server + git management/issues/etc.. app is a pain, but I see it as the only real solution. Developing in the open can't be done on platforms where restrictions apply, and they do apply. I'm saying this with no intention of sounding like a jerk, but 18 project maintainers and/or developer need to write an open letter to get Github to give'em a "me too" button? I understand the issue, but i still find it rather silly.

The only aspect I could think of where Github has the pro is the community of developers it has, but does it really matter that much? Especially for established/big projects that probably don't care about the fork/stars numbers, or the random look around-ers that pass by.

Re: Dear GitHub

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I do not operate a popular OSS project, but I have experienced the +1 spam and it sucks. The suggestions, in my opinion seem rational. Interesting side note: With the exception of Selenium, most of signees are maintainers of JS/HTML OSS projects. I wonder if we could objectively compare JS to projects in terms of the problems mentioned in the document. For example, there is a strong correlation between +1'ers and JS…

Google Code has primarily been used for Chromium's issue tracker, but they have a star system for exactly this reason.

You can sort something by stars, but it's bad etiquette there for a user to comment +1 rather than just star.

Re: Dear GitHub

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After the whole incident where they deleted forks of a project without notice, due to their belief on what is and is not appropriate words to use in code without an apology I think we really need to re-assess GitHub in general.

Their 'control' of code and lack of respect to the people running projects is very disappointing and they seem to not want to move forward on the issues.

I'm surprised the open community is allowing this de-facto ownership of the worlds code and how it's written to take place, I'm not so sure they are a benevolent dictator.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150802/20330431831/githu...

Re: Dear GitHub

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Issue spam (in the literal sense) definitely needs addressed as well: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYI31g1UQAUXQbs.png

It's my project, why can't I just delete issues like any other bug tracker?

Re: Dear GitHub

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I feel like there is a great opportunity right now for anyone to make a Github replacement. Sounds like a lot of these features are sorely needed at the moment. Why has Github been complacent?

By their very nature, git repos are one of the easiest things to migrate. Simply point at a new remote and push, and that's really it. It means that, unlike many other services, I could see GitHub being completely abandoned almost over night. If something better came along.

Agreed. This is the point of git. There is no centralized repository.

Re: Dear GitHub

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I do not operate a popular OSS project, but I have experienced the +1 spam and it sucks. The suggestions, in my opinion seem rational. Interesting side note: With the exception of Selenium, most of signees are maintainers of JS/HTML OSS projects. I wonder if we could objectively compare JS to projects in terms of the problems mentioned in the document. For example, there is a strong correlation between +1'ers and JS…

I think it's just monkey see->monkey do. As soon as one person said +1, everyone that saw it thought that that's just how you voted for stuff. It's the same reason you see comments on HN or reddit that just say "This." or that if you leave your shoes by the door, everyone else will do the same. I doubt these people keep doing it if you ask them not to.

There's an old story about this man who stood quietly next to a closed door in Moscow, said nothing to no one, and did nothing else of interest. Eventually others joined him, and before long a queue has formed. No one knew what they were standing in line for.

Monkey see - monkey do.

Re: Dear GitHub

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Is there an issue tracking system out there that works on top of the Github issue system?

waffle.io does this, but having to run on top of GitHub means it can't really fix problems like voting. But it can offer better search and things like that

Re: Dear GitHub

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Interesting petition, and I agree with it; but I wonder why are all projects mentioned in the _Signed by_ section based on JavaScript? I know there are other languages involved in some of those projects like C++ and Java in Selenium and PhantomJS but this specific thing in the document makes me believe that only JavaScript developers _(at least the ones using GitHub)_ are more prone to complain than other type of developers.
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