Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by brendandburns » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:02 PM UTC

Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork
blog.kubernetes.io

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by louwrentius » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:37 PM UTC

I feel so silly but I can't help myself. The name 'Kubernetes' is so ugly and off-putting I hope I never have to use this software.

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by binaryanomaly » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:40 PM UTC

Interesting move. It's obviously still completely open how much the docker ecosystem can establish itself as a standard besides runC respectively docker api(cli)/daemon.

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by skj » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:44 PM UTC

louwrentius wrote: post #2

I feel so silly but I can't help myself. The name 'Kubernetes' is so ugly and off-putting I hope I never have to use this software.

With all due respect, you don't only "feel" silly.

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by kornish » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:49 PM UTC

louwrentius wrote: post #2

I feel so silly but I can't help myself. The name 'Kubernetes' is so ugly and off-putting I hope I never have to use this software.

Well, maybe it would help to have some background on the name: Kubernetes is Greek for 'helsman' or 'pilot' [1].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubernetes

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by binaryanomaly » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:52 PM UTC

kornish wrote: post #5

louwrentius wrote: post #2

I feel so silly but I can't help myself. The name 'Kubernetes' is so ugly and off-putting I hope I never have to use this software.

Well, maybe it would help to have some background on the name: Kubernetes is Greek for 'helsman' or 'pilot' [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubernetes

Actually cybernetics originates from kubernetes.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cybernetics

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by fidget » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 9:58 PM UTC

Nice to finally see it in writing: "Throughout this investigation Docker has made it clear that they’re not very open to ideas that deviate from their current course or that delegate control"

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by namsral » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 10:09 PM UTC

fidget wrote: post #7

Nice to finally see it in writing: "Throughout this investigation Docker has made it clear that they’re not very open to ideas that deviate from their current course or that delegate control"

The team at CoreOS came to a similar conclusion:

> Docker has demonstrated that it is on a path to include many facilities beyond basic container management, turning it into a complex platform.

More than a year ago on their blog, https://coreos.com/blog/rocket/

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by magicmu » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 10:17 PM UTC

namsral wrote: post #8

fidget wrote: post #7

Nice to finally see it in writing: "Throughout this investigation Docker has made it clear that they’re not very open to ideas that deviate from their current course or that delegate control"

The team at CoreOS came to a similar conclusion: > Docker has demonstrated that it is on a path to include many facilities beyond basic container management, turning it into a complex platform. More than a year ago on their blog, https://coreos.com/blog/rocket/

I'm increasingly impressed with CoreOS, especially etcd, and more generally, using systemd for init. Not that difficult to get up and running either.

Re: Why Kubernetes isn't using Docker's libnetwork

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Post by swozey » Thu, Jan 14, 2016, 10:17 PM UTC

louwrentius wrote: post #2

I feel so silly but I can't help myself. The name 'Kubernetes' is so ugly and off-putting I hope I never have to use this software.

If it makes you feel any better, in chat most of us call it k8s (kates).