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Al Jazeera America to Shut Down in April

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Post by wyclif »

g8oz wrote: post #164
arjn wrote: post #163

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Thats odd, I distinctly remember a huge liking and trust for the BBC (especially radio) among the older Indian folk - middle class and above.

I think it's more accurate to say that the BBC is disliked by the newer Hindu nationalist types for not pandering to their world view.

I think it's more accurate to say that the BBC is disliked by lots of people are aren't culturally Marxist.

BBC is fine for left-leaning Anglosphere types, but it's not very broad in terms of the views covered.

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Post by vidarh »

wyclif wrote: post #239
virtuabhi wrote: post #110

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BBC is not considered trustworthy in India. We listen to BBC for English language but also recognize that BBC still suffers from colonial-era mindset. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC#Indophobi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC#Anti-Hind... "Writing for the 2008 edition of the peer-reviewed Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Alasdair Pinkerton analyses the coverage…

BBC is not considered trustworthy by lots of people in the West, too. They're very left-biased, and very poor at presenting opposing viewpoints.

... and most of the left wing considers BBC right-biased.

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Post by icebraining »

SilasX wrote: post #196
icebraining wrote: post #39

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That story always sounded off. I have to admit I mostly listen to European Spanish, but "Nova" doesn't really read like "no va", the intonation is very different.

What if someone said: "In English, 'experts exchange' sounds noticeably different from 'expert sexchange'; therefore, no one would ridicule expertsexchange.com for its similarity to the latter."

Yeah, but the story wasn't that "someone" mocked the name, it was that the car was a commercial failure because of it. As far as I know, EE had at least quite a few years of success despite the name.

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Post by rudimental »

Cyph0n wrote: post #237
hackuser wrote: post #141

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> AJ English is quite different from AJ Arabic that at times I feel it's a different channel entirely. I'd be very interested to know about AJ Arabic (and I don't speak Arabic at all). If you don't mind sharing a little more: How does it differ from AJ English? Also, maybe 15 years ago I'd hear how AJ Arabic was the only real journalism in the Arab world and a force for democracy and reform. Was that your experience?…

> I'd be very interested to know about AJ Arabic (and I don't speak Arabic at all). If you don't mind sharing a little more: How does it differ from AJ English? In general, the "feel" of the channel is different, to the point where if AJ English had another name, you'd have no idea they're related. More specifically, AJ English is a bit more general in its global coverage, whereas AJ Arabic focuses more on the region…

>The way I see it is that there simply is no neutral news source.

Very much agree here

>BBC Arabic and France 24 are pro-Israel

I find this hard to believe, especially BBC Arabic being pro-Israel. The English language BBC is pretty critical- it would be surprising if the Arabic language articles are more neutral or sometimes positive.

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Post by SilasX »

icebraining wrote: post #243
SilasX wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if someone said: "In English, 'experts exchange' sounds noticeably different from 'expert sexchange'; therefore, no one would ridicule expertsexchange.com for its similarity to the latter."

Yeah, but the story wasn't that "someone" mocked the name, it was that the car was a commercial failure because of it. As far as I know, EE had at least quite a few years of success despite the name.

The snopes debunking of Nova/no-va insists that native Spanish speakers wouldn't automatically see the similarity and irony between the words. They did, just as English speakers did for EE.

Though they both may have sold well in spite of the meaningful names.

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Post by jon-wood »

JimboOmega wrote: post #216
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #160

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I think that use case was implied by the OP: With Netflix or other streaming services 50,000 TVs is 50,000 individual streaming sessions. With a broadcast 50,000 people watching the same thing is 1 broadcast. Multicast is effectively broadcast -- it's (theoretically) great if what you're distributing is a live video stream. But we're moving toward a world where the vast majority of what we're watching is on-demand. W…

Does multicast see any actual use? I was under the impression that while it's theoretically great for a live video stream, nobody ever actually uses it.

The last time I checked a few UK TV channels were doing multicast streaming, but none of the big ISPs actually supported it. I have no idea what's involved in making it work but I find it really sad that it's not used more.

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Post by [deleted] »

brightball wrote: post #86
rogerbinns wrote: post #7

The article did not mention Al Jazeera deciding to remove their Internet streaming, and requiring that you can only view via your local cable provider. See this page with the big note to US people: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/201146152255537258.html I used to check in on their coverage on the Roku channel, but they made a business decision to prevent that. I can understand their decision to make their success…

Whenever people talk about the money in college football right now, I generally tell them to blame Tivo (and subsequently Netflix). Tivo started it with the ability to record and watch later while fast forwarding through commercials. Netflix with it's mountains of commercial free content followed next. That put a huge advertising premium on content that people NEED to watch live like sports or hit shows like Walking…

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

gozur88 wrote: post #211
rm_-rf_slash wrote: post #16

This comes as absolutely no surprise at all. It doesn't matter if you are the most accurate, informed, respectable news source in the world, because almost no Americans know what Al Jazeera is, and the name evokes the image backdrop of a middle eastern city most Americans can't find on a map, discussing topics of primary interest to American Muslims and few else, while the female anchors are veiled. Not to mention it…

Americans know what Al Jazeera is. The problem is Americans no longer want their news from a viewpoint that doesn't have a bias in their direction.

I don't think Americans are alone in that.

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Post by mcv »

thirdsun wrote: post #22
rogerbinns wrote: post #7

The article did not mention Al Jazeera deciding to remove their Internet streaming, and requiring that you can only view via your local cable provider. See this page with the big note to US people: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/201146152255537258.html I used to check in on their coverage on the Roku channel, but they made a business decision to prevent that. I can understand their decision to make their success…

Furthermore are cable customers really Al Jazeera's target audience? Those folks sticking with cable are probably older, more traditional people - do they regard Al Jazeera as legitimate news source or is it "that terrorist news channel" in their eyes? Honest question, I've always enjoyed Al Jazeera, but as a european I don't know if they are mainstream enough to succeed in US cable networks.

I did wonder if perhaps its name and anti-Arabic prejudice held held it back. It would be a shame if it did, because Al Jazeera seemed like a remarkably sane and thoughtful voice in the otherwise short-sighted and highly partial media landscape of the US.
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