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ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by tracker1 »

creshal wrote: post #164
fapjacks wrote: post #156

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I'm genuinely curious which projects you are thinking of when you mention Apple. Shedding GPLv3 and refusing to (for example) update Bash because they do not want to use anything licensed under GPLv3 is pretty.... I dunno, I'm just curious what projects you're thinking of when you say that. The walls of that garden are pretty high.

Or Samba. When given the choice to abide by the GPL and open source their Samba changes, or to drop everything; they did the latter and wrote their own SMB implementation. That was three or four OSX releases ago and it's still buggy as hell. The only one who lost here are Apple's paying customers.

Have to agree, had a lot of pain when they first switched, their initial release/update was broken/poor to say the least.. the hangs and performance issues aside even.

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Post by janpieterz »

sqeaky wrote: post #134
magicalist wrote: post #115

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> Most of the privacy settings that people are most worried about is tied into Cortana or more specifically what you allow Cortana to do on your behalf In all of these discussions on HN, the only ones bringing up "worries" about Cortana features have been people defending Windows 10 (and now Windows 8 and 7) data collection. It's easy to disable and, if you choose not to use it, it won't collect data anyways. The sam…

Even if microsoft told, that doesn't mean we should automatically trust it. The could be wrong or lying. I would prefer source code, but someone will eventually do packet captures to figure at least some of it out.

You have no way of trusting any other company that releases closed systems either. Like iOS, or manufacturers Androids. You have to trust some institution at some point.

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Post by netheril96 »

rayiner wrote: post #249
X-Istence wrote: post #248

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Except that clang is free, under a completely open license, which completely and utterly negates your second sentence.

Swift was unfree until recently. That couldn't have happened with GCC.

Swift probably would never exist, much less free, if LLVM were not a thing and GCC were the only choice.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by netheril96 »

MS changes towards open source is nice, but I wonder how long it will be before all these projects are usable and stable enough on Linux/BSD/OS X. Perhaps they should focus on bringing a single project cross-platform, like .Net, instead of simultaneously attacking so many fronts.

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Post by z3t4 »

api wrote: post #112
jrcii wrote: post #31

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> MS really changed its approach to software Their open-source friendliness has unfortunately coincided with a decline of their respect for user privacy and choice (Windows 10). I find the "New Microsoft" bittersweet.

If you're concerned about MS privacy, you should be absolutely outraged about Google, Facebook, etc. You also shouldn't consider Apple to be that different. The Win10 privacy thing isn't much different from what Apple now does by default, and all of it can be turned off. While it does gather data, it does so in the course of supporting functions that most users want like Cortana and smart search. Apple is also full o…

You are right. A few years ago, googleupdate.exe would scan all your hard drives, it would be interesting to know what they did with all that data.

That's why I spent several hundred dollars on a copy of Windows. But can you imagine my reaction when Microsoft secretly installed tracking software to collect my personal data!?

Some times when I open up a new app, copy something into clipboard, or search on the web, there will be outgoing connections to akamai / microsoft servers.

I'm currently migrating to Linux because of this.

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Post by bluejekyll »

bastawhiz wrote: post #80

To everyone chanting "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish", I'd like to remind you that Node proper was a golden egg sitting under Joyent's goose. When Joyent decided they didn't want to embrace anymore, the community took the extinguisher out of their hands. Granted, Microsoft is in a more similar position to Google than to Joyent, but the point of the argument is that the community has driven the language and the runtime f…

MIT is flawed b/c it does nothing for licensing of patents that might cover sections of that code base.

I'm not saying Microsoft is intentionally not licensing patents through OS, this might be strictly to be compatable with GPL.

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Post by king_of_nouns »

nchelluri wrote: post #258
viraptor wrote: post #237

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If you publish something using apache license you grant users the right to use your patents that cover this software. When you publish under MIT, you can still keep a patent and sue any user.

Can you explain how this works in more detail? If I use someone's MIT license code that has patented stuff in it, does that make me a potential target? Seems hard to justify using MIT licensed code in that case?

> Seems hard to justify using MIT licensed code in that case?

It doesn't.. It's what MS essentially had prior to opensourcing .net proper.

They had some parts of it the library that were free, and some parts that were hands-off or we'll sue you.

It makes sense to try and lure people in at first with "free" and then scare them into buying licences if they ever manage to get big.

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