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Reminds me of a scam surrounding recruitment (in armed forces) in India. 100s of potential recruits come to the recruiting event. So scammers would go around pitching their services: give us 1000 rupees, and we'll get you in. If you are not selected, all your money back. In reality, they did nothing. If the guy got selected, they kept the money; if he didn't, they gladly refunded it. Easy money.
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Why? Is it wrong for boot camps to do that? I am genuinely asking since I'm not familiar with that. What exactly goes on and why is it bad?
Because a student who just graduated should not be teaching new students. They are way too junior and inexperience even if they are the top in their class. The bootcamp should be investing in quality instructors. Also, some bootcamps hire students that have trouble finding a job in order to keep their percentage of students finding jobs high.
Source: I was a bootcamp grad who was thrilled to be hired by my bootcamp. I learned a ton there. I work for Udacity now :)
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Well it does set a minimum > Further, in your new job Udacity guarantees that your gross income from such job will be in excess of your cost of tuition (pre-tax) within a 3 month period following job placement But given you are paying about 3600 for the degree, that comes out to making minimum wage.
As someone who lives in a place where minimum wage is ~4 USD/day -> ~120 USD/month. Hell yeah!
Sounds good, so long as they don't pull what some bootcamps do, which is hire former students
Why? Is it wrong for boot camps to do that? I am genuinely asking since I'm not familiar with that. What exactly goes on and why is it bad?
1. People who just graduated from a 12 week bootcamp are not really practiced and skilled enough to be mentoring others, imo.
2. It sounds like a way to inflate the bootcamp's placement rates, which seems really sketchy and borderline false advertising to me.
My friend is considering this bootcamp around here called DevMountain and was telling me that the placement rate is supposedly around 90-95% within 3 months of graduation. This is for a 13-week program that costs over $10,000 I think. It might be a great program, but it sounds expensive to me and that placement rate sounds too good to be true. I warned my friend that they've probably found some way to manipulate that number, like people getting short-term contracts or something. My friend hears "90% placement within 3 months" and thinks he's got a 90% chance of getting a good, full-time job within 3 months of finishing the program (which is probably what the bootcamp wants him to think).
Reminds me of a scam surrounding recruitment (in armed forces) in India. 100s of potential recruits come to the recruiting event. So scammers would go around pitching their services: give us 1000 rupees, and we'll get you in. If you are not selected, all your money back. In reality, they did nothing. If the guy got selected, they kept the money; if he didn't, they gladly refunded it. Easy money.
That doesn't sound too different than the american education system, except without the refund.
When I clicked through, it turned out that the person had also completed a 'B.S. in Computer Science at UCLA'.
Their title is misleading. You are not guaranteed a job, just a refund of tuition if you fail to get a job. Still, this is a lot more than your average university will guarantee you.
What an evil and misleading testimonial. They're trying to imply that he got a job at google because of the nanodegree, while you find out after the clickthrough that he simultaneously got a CS degree from UCLA.
I graduated from their front-end developer nano degree program last year when it first launched. It doesn't feel great that none of these new "guarantees" applies to me.
Did it result in a decent job (if that was your goal)?