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Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by melted »

KirinDave wrote: post #245
melted wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say Azure is at a competitive disadvantage (though it is, when it comes to Linux -- their Linux VMs are substantially slower than competition). I merely said that given choice, people prefer Linux as a platform, and they do so for a reason: better tooling, less vendor lock in, greater variety of free/libre backend software and frameworks, to name just a few. Windows really is redundant in this environment.

I was doing some benchmarking on AWS, GCE and Azure at various price points for some research and didn't see Azure perform much worse for similar price points to AWS. Everyone is slower than GCE. Do you have references for the assertion? I'm entirely happy to say I did the tests wrong, I did them as a trio of evening projects.

My workload was CPU-bound. Test TensorFlow CIFAR model training on the VM with the same amount of CPU on all three major providers. In my case Azure was ~30% slower, whereas GCE and AWS were neck and neck.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by crudbug »

Why nobody extends excellent platform like LuaJIT, it has all the qualities to becomes an "Uber" dynamic language platform.

LuaJIT platforms like luvIT[1] with proper VM management/diagnostics APIs will make it compelling solution for backend middlewares and IoT boards.

[1] https://luvit.io

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by erichocean »

krylon wrote: post #116
rewqfdsa wrote: post #57

A few years ago, the trendy naming convention was Kit. Now it's Core, I guess. Will we stop wishing we were Apple one day?

This is OT, but didn't BeOS name its components -Kit before Apple did that?

No, the *Kit suffix comes from NeXT, which Apple acquired and is where Mac OS X (and iOS) are derived from. NeXT started using that terminology in the 1980s, before Be Inc. was started (in 1991).

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by ksk »

k33n wrote: post #206
ksk wrote: post #131

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It is not overblown. I'm very happy that Microsoft is getting bad press. Hopefully this drives people away from Windows. This is the only way Microsoft "listens". When their revenue takes a hit. The primary issue with Windows 10 is how Microsoft is forcing people to upgrade to it. The secondary issue is with the lack of controls given to users. I don't want certain Win 7 machines that I own/maintain to ever upgrade t…

> As a customer of MS, I despise these methods, as I continue to use their OS, because there simply isn't any other alternative. There are many alternatives to using Windows as your host OS.

Yes, and they're appropriate for many use-cases, just not mine.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by blibble »

frandroid wrote: post #234
dragandj wrote: post #216

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One thing that always baffled me was "routine software audits" by Microsoft, Oracle, and the likes. So, you license a technology, and now your supplier can police you at their own wish. OK, there are situations when you have no choice - they are the only game in town. But in the last decade much of the infrastructure has been available in an open-source form. I am surprised anyone would touch anything from such compa…

You agree to this even if you're just using Windows and/or IE, or any other Microsoft software for that matter. So either you have absolutely no Microsoft software, or you're open to an audit.

how does that work as a consumer/very small business? they have no proof that I'm running their software, they would be never be able to get a warrant to search my premises, and if they ever stepped foot on my property I'd have them done for trespass.

I can believe there's a contractual term in the volume license agreement that allows them the right, but for that they be giving you a significant discount, which seems fair.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by criddell »

smt88 wrote: post #220
criddell wrote: post #158

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A lot of small medical and dental practices operate on one or two PCs. Windows doing things like uploading your calendar and address books could end up being a HIPAA violation. Enterprise customers are fine because they have controls for everything, but small offices running Windows 10 Pro aren't so lucky.

Those practices use purpose-built software, not Outlook or some other Windows-readable program. Microsoft also offers HIPAA-compliant service agreements for such businesses. If those offices aren't hiring someone who knows those things, they're probably not HIPAA compliant for many other reasons as well.

Very small offices may not use purpose-built software. My dentist when I was at school was a one-person operation (he's retired now).

Even if they are using purpose built software, by default Cortana watches what you type in everything and sends samples (at least) to Microsoft. You can turn Cortana off, but you can't uninstall it or even stop it from running and you can't be sure that Microsoft won't just turn it back on anyway (unless you are an enterprise customer).

I just don't understand why Microsoft doesn't just allow all of that stuff to be turned off by everybody? I could be pretty happy with Windows 10 if it respected my privacy more.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by KirinDave »

melted wrote: post #251
KirinDave wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was doing some benchmarking on AWS, GCE and Azure at various price points for some research and didn't see Azure perform much worse for similar price points to AWS. Everyone is slower than GCE. Do you have references for the assertion? I'm entirely happy to say I did the tests wrong, I did them as a trio of evening projects.

My workload was CPU-bound. Test TensorFlow CIFAR model training on the VM with the same amount of CPU on all three major providers. In my case Azure was ~30% slower, whereas GCE and AWS were neck and neck.

Interesting. My workload was more a mix of artifical network and CPU tasks. I'll revisit with this.

Thank you.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by nchelluri »

viraptor wrote: post #237
k__ wrote: post #228

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Care to elaborate?

If you publish something using apache license you grant users the right to use your patents that cover this software. When you publish under MIT, you can still keep a patent and sue any user.

Can you explain how this works in more detail? If I use someone's MIT license code that has patented stuff in it, does that make me a potential target? Seems hard to justify using MIT licensed code in that case?

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by patio11 »

criddell wrote: post #158
Someone1234 wrote: post #97

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The Windows 10 privacy thing is completely overblown. Most of the privacy settings that people are most worried about is tied into Cortana or more specifically what you allow Cortana to do on your behalf. You can simply choose not to use Cortana or to disable it entirely. Google Now & Siri support the same functionality but ironically don't give you the settings to disable it, so nobody bats an eyelid. Beyond that yo…

A lot of small medical and dental practices operate on one or two PCs. Windows doing things like uploading your calendar and address books could end up being a HIPAA violation. Enterprise customers are fine because they have controls for everything, but small offices running Windows 10 Pro aren't so lucky.

Let me delicately observe that there is a straightforward reason why one has HIPAA-protected information in one's address book and it implies you make hundreds of HIPAA violations routinely.

Re: ChakraCore GitHub repository is now open

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Post by viraptor »

nchelluri wrote: post #258
viraptor wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you publish something using apache license you grant users the right to use your patents that cover this software. When you publish under MIT, you can still keep a patent and sue any user.

Can you explain how this works in more detail? If I use someone's MIT license code that has patented stuff in it, does that make me a potential target? Seems hard to justify using MIT licensed code in that case?

That's right. MIT does not protect you from any patent-related legal action. It's not that hard to justify though - it's the same for BSD and MIT/BSD has been used for ages.

Both Apache and GPL grant patent use to everyone. I'd paste the relevant bit, but it's stupid-law-level-long. Point 3 in https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt - also see the exploding trap at the end of that point. You cannot sue the author for patent reasons.

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